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bmaxbox

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Aug 11, 2007
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Hey there, Names brian. I drive a ford ranger and deliver pizza, I landscape full time in summer and going to Wright state University in the fall. Theres a little about me. I've had two Fieros, an 84 and a 88. 88 was a v6 5 speed formula converted to gt style. Sold to get my 2002 ford ranger, only 2wd 4cyl. 32k. Installed a 3" body lift and installed 32's.

Theres a little about me, Im very firmiler with dsm's. My brother has a 95 talon esi. Friend has a 99 GSX with about 8000 into the engine now. I'm a do it your selfer with some tools. A girlfriends heated garage helps too.

Im in need of some help. I've done some work on the talon. Actually allot. This thing is in bad shape. Its a college car, stock and plan to keep it this way. My brother "in college" drives this thing to work, college, home and to his girlfriends house. It sees allot of highway and has high mileage. 175,???.

Thing that I have done.

Head gasket
Head cleaned and hot tanked
timing belt and pulleys
water pump
all belts
alternator
radiator

Allready started to rust in allot of places and just want this thing to last.

Doesnt sound good. Seems like the timing is off or running on 3 cylinders.
Exhaust has leaks and I need to weld up somthing new and quiet.
Headliner is falling and is held up by pins.
Seet doesnt lock into postitions higher than driving like a pimp.


The problem now is this sound in the front. Its when you go straight and turn right. When you turn left its gone. sounds loud and annoying, still does it in neutral and when braking. I came to the conclusion its a wheel bearing. I purchased a wheel bearing hub assembly. This seems like the only part that can be the problem. Thought he lower ball joint is going, ball joints dont make this groaning sound. :)

I have gotten most everything off and cannot get the axle out of the hub. I've rented a 3 prong puller to push it through, didnt work and a slide hammer that also didnt work. I need to get the axle out to take the hub bolts out. hub bolts dont come out until you remove axle. (in the way).

Im in need of help. Ive been thinking and have an idea. I think I could take the whole hub assembly off with axle. Hub assembly is bolted to the front arm. I need to take off all ball joints and such. I want to see if a shop, Mabye napa can push the axle through with a press. Is this a good idea? Will this damage the axle? And am i even replacing the right part? I mean the only thing could be an axle, but why would it stop making sound when i turn left? Must be bearing.

Thanks again and if you have any tips on anything else. Like the running like crap part, how to adjust timing or fixing his seat it would be great!

Im letting him use my ranger for a little so i can fool with his car. So the sooner the information comes the better! thanks!

Brian Maxwell
 
to get the axel out of the hub, heat it slightly with like a plumbers torch and get a candle and melt the wax onto the splines

I know sounds weird -- the candle has perflin ( i think thats the chemicals name ) and it puts pentrating oil to shame -- ive used it on several bolts and axels that refused to come out and presto -- they all came out and i nearly did a back flip of my car trying to get a window regulator to pop out that way

if you think the bearing is trashed anyways and your having a new one pushed in then you can heat the piss out of it seeing as your trashing it anyway --

that would be my last resort though -- have someone torch that sucker out


good luck broski:thumb:
 
+1 on the candle wax, works wonders!!!
 
Heat does magic:thumb:... and your a good brother for helping your bro out. I had the same problem with my old Talon too, I used a lot of PB blaster and a hammer to hit it. I had a nut flushed with the axle so I wouldnt ruin the threads on the axle.. anyways good luck
 
Im not sure of heating up the axle its self.. and i wouldn't be able to get the wax on the axles splines. How do i remove the axle from the tranni. This is the driverside.

Thanks for all your replies.
 
Doesnt sound good. Seems like the timing is off or running on 3 cylinders.

Timing Belt VFAQ (Timing Belt TSB - ENHANCED)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This link is a very good place to help you out with your timing belt changing needs. I hope that this helps you out! You want to make sure that the timing is all in line because it could seriously cost you down the road! :thumb:
 
I will try to use the torch. But until then. Can any of you explain how to the the axle out of the tranny? I havent looked at it fully. never lifted it enough to, there must be a clip or locking mechanism from letting it fall out because when i tug on it, it moves a little but is stuck.

So i'm not sure if i explained the engine in full. Seems like the timing is good. I just redid it two weeks ago replacing water pump. The engine is fine in all rpms but idle. when it is still at idle it feels like theres a miss. seems as if its running on 3 cylinders, but when you rev it sounds fine. It also shakes due to the idle. To people it may seem like he has pro cams but he doesnt.

Another thing i notice is a little knock. this has been there for awhile and im not to worried about it.. just wanted you to know. I've found that it feels like it has lost power in the upper rpms.. once it hits 4k it doesnt feel so powerfull. knock is at 2-3. light ticking sound.

Any help is very much appriciated. Thanks!
 
Doubt you will have enough clearance to get the axle out of the tranny if the front end is still put together.

But, if you are just wanting to know how to get it to 'unlock', I usually just get under the car (supported on blocks or jack stands) and use a big flat headed screwdriver. All you should have to do is gently wedge it between the cv shaft and the transmission housing and smack it toward the passenger side. May have to work it around a bit, but that's how I've always done it.

Also, if it's knocking at 2-3k, I wouldn't suggest even getting it in to the upper rpms. Sounds like it's a rod bearing though. That is generally the range that I have noticed them to knock. Below 2k, they aren't moving fast enough to knock. Above 3K, they are moving fast enough to just race around the crankshaft quietly... but eventually will get tired of running around. Try to keep it below 2k until it gets fixed.
 
So, an update for today.

I have gotten the hub, front bar and axle out as one. The axle seems as if its stuck but with a pry bar and hammer, it comes out of the tranny. As far as the axle inside the hub. Well its still in there as we speak. It will soon be taken out by one of my fathers co-workers at his work in the next hour.

I first took this up to napa to see if they could press it out. They said there is no way they can save everything. They used to do this for the dealership. Allot of cars like fords, Mitsubishi and others rust inside at the splines and they would try to press these out. Sometimes getting it, other times braking an axle or the whole bar it mounts too. No matter what my axle will need to be replaced now after talking to napa. So i went home and didn't care about it and started beating it to death. soaked it in penetrating oil and killed the threads like not other. Used a air hammer and everything. Would budge. So we decided to cut the axle. well we were cutting right behind the lugs and before the mounting plate. Got through everything and came to the axle. tried new blades and everything and got no where. This is when we decided to take it up to my dads work. lots of metal fabrication and suck. We stuck it in this huge metal band saw we thought was amazing. And it couldn't cut through it.. we were stunned and kinda laughed about how crazy hard this steel was.. Never have we seen this saw not cut through anything.

One of my dads co-workers was helping us and told us to pick it up in the morning. He said since were replacing everything hes going to torch the living hell out of it and get it out. after cutting off our miss shaped threads. haha

Well hopefully it comes out. I'll pick up the axle tomorrow and new seal. Put this together and hopefully fix the annoying sound and vibration.
 
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