GREDDY BIG FMIC vs. APEX-i GT FMIC

[Phatty95GSX]

Headline says it all... i am able to get Apex-i FMIC for 450 shipped, then the Apex-i Upper IC piping for 185 for a total of 635 shipped... or i can go with the Greddy 24r FMIC with upper/lower piping for 535shipped... which would you go for? Do they put out the same airflow... anyone prefer one or the other... the apex set up is about 100 more. I currently have Apex n1 exhaust also let me know what you would prefer... and is there more then 1 kind of Apex IC for an eclipse?

 

[VEE-DUBBER]

the apex'i looks cooler
i think the greddy is tube and fin and the apex is bar and plate which cools better and is more durable. where you at in WA? I'd like to take a look at your car when i get mine back on the road in the next day or 2

 

[X|Crescens]

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I got that from Extreme Psi. Im not sure if i would want to intercooler tube going over the actual core. Doesnt that defeat the purpose? Ah well.

 

[Phatty95GSX]

yea true... thnk im gonna end up goin the Apex-i Route, heh gonna have Apex-i 3" cat back for sale for gsx... if i get that as im gettin package deal heh thanks for the pics.

 

[DSMSpyder99]

i personally think Apexi products are superior to Greddy. I would take an apexi product over a greddy product any day. The only execption is the BOV becasue they apexi cant be re-circulated

 

[fish3rboi]

The Apex-i one is said to get more air to the radiator and whatnot. So you sacrifice some intercooler efficiency to gain airflow behind the intercooler. And in the Greddy case, more air is cooled via the intercooler but a lot less reaches the back side of the intercooler. Just what I heard..

 

[Fahrenheit]

hey where can you get the greddy for so cheep? could you post a link to the site or do you know someone who gives you a sweet hookup?

 

[Phatty95GSX]

One of my friends... well both my friends are selling them...

 

[blk91tsiawd]

buy the apexi and give me your friends number so I can pickup that greddy one....

 

[midnght]

Since eveyone is defending the Apexi I will offer some GReddy experience.

I have had the GReddy since summer. It DID NOT make my car run any hotter, in fact it didn't change at all. Even after some 'spirited' driving it (car temp) never changed.

If people are saying you get better cooling for the radiator with the Apexi and that it sacrifices intercooler ability, then my first hand experience proves that the GReddy is the way to go.

 

[Warhead2k3]

Greddy cools great, yeah the top pipe runs over the front of it, which blocks some air. Only downside to it is the weak fins, every bug that hits it will dent a fin.

 

[Scrymerr]

Reading up on intercoolers, the greddy endtanks dont seem like a very good design. It seems they would not have as equal distribution of the air throughout the core. I personally use the Apexi and like it very much. A+

Dan

 

[1badtsi]

im going with the apex, fuk dat bending fin mess you greddy guys can have it..... i personally want my 800+ dollar investment to last a while

 

[midnght]

Originally posted by Phatty95GSX
.. i am able to get Apex-i FMIC for 450 shipped, then the Apex-i Upper IC piping for 185 for a total of 635 shipped... or i can go with the Greddy 24r FMIC with upper/lower piping for 535shipped... which would you go for? Do they put out the same airflow... anyone prefer one or the other... the apex set up is about 100 more.

He is getting these at well below price on the internet. The Apex is $100 more and neither one is going to cost $800. So if you want to save a buck then again get the GReddy.

Either way you are going to get some good performance out of either one. People use both of them and they have all been saisfied. You will be happy either way.

 

[midnght]

A bug in the intercooler is inevitable (sp) so just be ready with some tweezers at the end of a good week of driving. The fins are VERY easy to move back in place. Most of the time they lodge between the fins and can just be pulled out. Bugs hitting the frontmount is like shootingit with a air pistol. You are going to get dented fins NO MATTER WHAT.

 

[greathuskie]

are you could buy a REAL fmic like AGP's

 

[me612]

The Greddy tube and fins cores are far less efficeint than any bar and plate core. It also has a huge pipe that runs in front of the core. Just not a great design in my opinion. I've never been a fan of Greddy, so I'd say go with the Apexi.

 

[midnght]

Originally posted by me612
It also has a huge pipe that runs in front of the core. Just not a great design in my opinion. I've never been a fan of Greddy, so I'd say go with the Apexi.

I will agree about the efficiency of the 2, but how much of a difference is it going to make on the average tuner. As for the design layout, the core itself is bigger and the pipe that runs across the top is covering yes but it still has more surface area. Driving at an accelerated speed do you think it blocks all the air that could reach it? Just look at the pic above. The Apexi is smaller and just cause the pipe runs without going infront of anything doesn't mean it gets more air, it is SMALLER.

But I guess I am just as PARTIAL as you since I AM a fan of a GReddy products. Apexi has a good fuel controller for the DSM, but that is about it. Even if we were talking engine managment on any level I would still go with the E-Manage over the S-AFC II anyday, but money is a needed in this cruel world.





If he had put that AGP FMIC as an option, I would have deff. pointed him there!!!

 

[Red99GSX]

does anyone have any experience with Spearco FMICs? i'm guessin you'd have to get custom bent piping, but it the IC itself good on our cars?

 

[ImportModder]

In case most people forgot, the pipe that runs across the Greddy intercooler is covered by the bumper anyways, even when you cut out that little piece at the top of the bumper opening. So it's not like that makes any difference. Besides, I like how the Greddy IC really fills up the bumper opening.

 

[Phatty95GSX]

Does the apexi cover the whole stock 97-99 front bumper... or come close to it?... anyone have a pic they can send of the apex posted up in the front bumper? to [email protected] thanks for all the feedback

 

[me612]

No matter how big the core is, it still has crap for efficiency. Yes its nice how it fills up the whole opening and has a large surface area, but still its an old tube and fin design, and fins that bend if you sneeze on them. It doesn't offer nearly the efficiency that a bar and plate would. With a tube and fin you can look right through one inlet and out the other. You need some turbulators in there to cause the air to be disrupted and mixed around so that more of it can have a chance to touch a wall and transfer some heat to the intercooler core, huge reason why bar and plates provide far superior efficiency. despite being slightly smaller, a bar and plate would still result in lower intake manifold temps vs. a slightly larger tube&fin core.