Good timing and no knock but, low o2's?

[92tsifwd]

TIMA FTO2 O2-R TPS RPM KNCK INJP ---
24° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 1500 0 6.40ms 10
24° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 1531 0 6.66ms 10
23° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 1563 0 6.40ms 10
24° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 1594 0 6.40ms 10
24° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 1625 0 6.40ms 11
24° 99.8% 0.76V 100.0% 1688 0 6.66ms 12
23° 99.8% 0.76V 100.0% 1719 0 6.66ms 12
23° 99.8% 0.78V 100.0% 1750 0 6.66ms 12
22° 99.8% 0.78V 100.0% 1781 1 6.91ms 13
21° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 1813 1 6.91ms 13
21° 99.8% 0.78V 100.0% 1844 0 7.17ms 14
22° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 1875 0 7.17ms 14
23° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 1938 0 7.17ms 14
23° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 2000 0 7.17ms 15
23° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 2031 0 7.42ms 16
22° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 2063 0 7.94ms 17
22° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 2094 0 8.19ms 18
21° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 2156 0 8.45ms 19
20° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 2219 0 8.70ms 20
19° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 2250 0 8.96ms 21
19° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 2313 0 8.70ms 21
20° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 2344 0 8.96ms 22
20° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 2406 0 8.96ms 23
21° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 2438 0 8.96ms 23
21° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 2531 0 9.22ms 24
20° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 2563 0 9.47ms 25
20° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 2656 0 9.98ms 28
19° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 2719 0 10.24ms 29
19° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 2781 0 10.50ms 31
20° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 2844 0 10.75ms 32
20° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 2938 0 10.75ms 33
21° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 2969 0 11.26ms 35
21° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 3031 0 11.52ms 37
21° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 3125 0 11.78ms 39
22° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 3219 0 12.03ms 41
22° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 3250 1 12.03ms 41
22° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 3344 1 11.78ms 42
23° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 3438 0 11.78ms 43
24° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 3500 0 11.52ms 43
24° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 3563 0 11.52ms 43
25° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 3656 0 11.52ms 45
25° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 3688 0 11.78ms 46
24° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 3781 0 12.03ms 48
24° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 3844 0 12.03ms 49
24° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 3906 0 12.03ms 50
24° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 3938 0 12.29ms 51
24° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 4063 0 12.29ms 53
24° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 4094 0 12.54ms 54
24° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 4188 0 12.54ms 56
24° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 4250 0 13.06ms 59
24° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 4375 0 13.57ms 63
24° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 4375 0 13.82ms 64
23° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 4500 0 14.08ms 67
23° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 4594 0 14.34ms 70
23° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 4625 0 14.34ms 70
23° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 4750 0 14.34ms 72
23° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 4813 0 14.85ms 76
23° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 4875 0 15.10ms 78
23° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 4875 0 15.10ms 78
23° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 5031 0 15.36ms 82
22° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 5063 0 15.87ms 85
22° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 5219 0 16.38ms 91
21° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 5281 0 16.64ms 93
22° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 5344 0 17.41ms 99
21° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 5469 0 18.18ms 106
22° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 5563 1 18.43ms 109
21° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 5594 0 18.69ms 111
22° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 5688 0 19.20ms 116
23° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 5875 0 19.20ms 120
24° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 5750 0 19.46ms 119
23° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 6031 0 19.46ms 125
24° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 6031 0 19.46ms 125
24° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 6094 0 19.46ms 126
24° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 6094 0 19.71ms 128
23° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 6063 0 19.71ms 127
23° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 6156 0 19.46ms 127
23° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 6281 0 19.46ms 130
22° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 6344 0 19.46ms 131
21° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 6375 0 19.20ms 130
20° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 6406 0 19.20ms 131
21° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 6500 0 18.94ms 131
20° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 6531 0 18.94ms 132
19° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 6531 0 18.69ms 130
18° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 6750 0 18.43ms 132
18° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 6844 0 18.43ms 134
18° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 6844 0 18.43ms 134
17° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 6875 0 18.43ms 135

 

[DSM90AWD]

As I'm sure you know by now OEM O2 sensors are almost as accurate under Open Loop as our factory boost gauge. Since your knock and timing are good, I would now start looking into an EGT gauge to see how much more you could get out of it.

FYI... this week I datalogged my car to the tune of .84-.86V on the O2s with no knock and similar timing advance. My O2 sensor is 2 years old, so your readings are normal.

BTW.. I took the liberty to convert your IPW to Inj Duty Cycle ((IPW*RPM/60)/2)/1000
You're over 100% DC >6K, so if leaning the S-AFC in the aRPM range brings on knock, then I see bigger injectors or more base fuel pressure in your future:

5875 94%
5750 93%
6031 98%
6031 98%
6094 99%
6094 100%
6063 100%
6156 100%
6281 102%
6344 103%
6375 102%
6406 102%
6500 103%
6531 103%
6531 102%
6750 104%
6844 105%
6844 105%
6875 106%

 

[92tsifwd]

I was using 3/4 tank 91 pump with oct boost. Ok, thanks for the help. Do you think I should get a egt or a wideband next?

 

[92tsifwd]

Also what do you think about installing 5/16 ID (6-an) fuel line from the pump to the rail like what www.vfaq.com did instead of 3/16 ID (stock) with a k&n fuel filter? Do you think this would help the stock injectors a little?

 

[DSM90AWD]

Also what do you think about installing 5/16 ID (6-an) fuel line from the pump to the rail like what www.vfaq.com did instead of 3/16 ID (stock) with a k&n fuel filter? Do you think this would help the stock injectors a little?

With a 190 Walbro and stock injectors the stock fuel lines/rail are not going to be a restriction. It wouldn't hurt anything though if it's something you want to do.

To increase fuel flow I'd either get larger injectors or boost base fuel pressure a few psi.

As for the EGT/Wideband. The Wideband is the best tuning tool out there aside from a datalogger but can be cumbersome to use on a daily basis. The EGT on the other hand is always there and will tell you if something goes wrong (I have the Peak/Hold Greedy).

So both are valuable in different ways.

 

[92tsifwd]

Here I leaned it out some more and turned up the boost to 15psi.
2nd gear

26° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 4125 0 14.59ms 64
20° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 4344 0 16.64ms 77
18° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 4500 0 17.15ms 82
18° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 4688 0 17.15ms 85
19° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 4938 0 17.66ms 93
19° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 5125 0 18.18ms 99
21° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 5375 0 18.18ms 104
21° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 5563 0 18.18ms 108
23° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 5625 0 18.18ms 109
23° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 5750 0 17.92ms 110
24° 99.8% 0.80V 100.0% 5844 1 17.92ms 111
24° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 6125 1 17.92ms 117
22° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 6219 0 17.92ms 119
22° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 6438 0 17.66ms 121
22° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 6500 0 17.66ms 122
21° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 6625 0 17.41ms 123
20° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 6813 0 17.15ms 124
20° 99.8% 0.82V 100.0% 6844 0 16.64ms 121
19° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 7000 0 16.64ms 124
19° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 7000 0 16.38ms 122
19° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 7156 0 16.38ms 125
19° 99.8% 0.84V 100.0% 7281 0 15.87ms 123

3rd gear I believe same settings after car was hot. (216*)

28° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 2594 0 7.17ms 19
28° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 2656 0 7.42ms 21
27° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 2688 0 7.68ms 22
27° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 2750 0 8.19ms 24
26° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 2781 0 8.70ms 25
25° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 2875 0 8.96ms 27
24° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 2906 0 9.73ms 30
23° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 3000 0 10.75ms 34
22° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 3063 0 12.29ms 40
20° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 3125 0 13.82ms 46
17° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 3219 0 15.10ms 51
16° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 3281 0 16.38ms 57
15° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 3375 0 17.41ms 62
15° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 3500 0 17.41ms 65
15° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 3594 0 16.90ms 64
16° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 3719 0 16.38ms 65
17° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 3781 0 16.13ms 65
17° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 3875 0 16.13ms 66
17° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 3938 0 16.13ms 67
18° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 4031 0 16.38ms 70
18° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 4125 0 16.64ms 73
18° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 4219 0 17.15ms 77
18° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 4344 0 17.66ms 81
18° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 4438 0 17.92ms 84
18° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 4531 0 18.43ms 89
18° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 4563 0 18.69ms 91
18° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 4656 0 18.94ms 94
19° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 4875 0 18.94ms 98
19° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 4906 0 18.94ms 99
19° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 4969 0 18.94ms 100
19° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 5031 0 19.20ms 103
20° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 5188 1 19.20ms 106
20° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 5281 1 19.46ms 109
21° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 5344 0 19.20ms 109
21° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 5375 0 19.20ms 110
21° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 5500 0 19.20ms 112
22° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 5594 0 19.20ms 114
23° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 5656 0 18.94ms 114
23° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 5781 0 18.94ms 117
23° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 5813 7 18.94ms 117
21° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 5750 6 18.94ms 116
22° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 5813 6 18.69ms 116
22° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 5938 6 18.69ms 118
21° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6000 7 18.69ms 119
21° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6000 6 18.69ms 119
21° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6188 6 18.43ms 121
21° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6188 6 18.43ms 121
19° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 6188 6 18.43ms 121
20° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6344 5 18.43ms 124
20° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 6344 5 18.18ms 123
20° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 6531 5 18.18ms 126
19° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 6406 5 17.92ms 122
19° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 6531 4 17.92ms 125
18° 99.8% 0.90V 100.0% 6500 4 17.66ms 122

 

[92tsifwd]

another 3rd gear pull.

18° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 4406 0 17.41ms 81
18° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 4531 0 17.92ms 86
18° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 4594 0 18.18ms 89
18° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 4656 0 18.43ms 91
18° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 4750 0 18.43ms 93
19° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 4875 0 18.69ms 97
19° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 4938 0 18.94ms 99
19° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 5063 0 18.94ms 102
20° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 5156 0 18.94ms 104
20° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 5250 0 19.20ms 107
21° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 5344 0 19.20ms 109
21° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 5438 0 19.20ms 111
22° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 5531 0 19.20ms 113
22° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 5469 0 18.94ms 110
22° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 5563 0 18.94ms 112
22° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 5625 0 18.94ms 113
23° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 5719 1 18.94ms 115
22° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 5813 1 18.94ms 117
23° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 5875 1 18.69ms 117
23° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 5938 0 18.43ms 116
24° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 6000 0 18.43ms 118
24° 99.8% 0.86V 100.0% 6156 0 18.43ms 121
23° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6156 0 18.43ms 121
24° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6094 0 18.43ms 120
22° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6281 0 18.18ms 121
22° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6406 0 17.92ms 122
22° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6344 0 17.92ms 121
20° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6406 0 17.92ms 122
21° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6500 0 17.92ms 124
20° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6594 0 17.66ms 124
20° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6594 0 17.41ms 122
20° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6656 0 17.41ms 123
20° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6625 0 17.41ms 123
20° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6750 0 17.41ms 125
20° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6875 0 17.15ms 125
20° 99.8% 0.88V 100.0% 6844 0 17.15ms 125

Now it is leaned out a couple more percentage at 2200rpm through 4400rpm and getting slightly better timing and no knock after these logs. It looks like I may be able to lean 6000 and up 1% mabey?

 

[DSM90AWD]

Lookign good!

Remember the more boost (airflow) you run may put you on a different Fuel Enrichment line on the fuel/timing table in the ECU.

Depending on the type of gas avaialable, shoot for a reasonable boost level and keep that constant and start fiddling with the S-AFC to finetune.

More Boost is better w.r.t. HP, but need to keep the Knock under 6-7 to make full use of it.

On vacation today so hope wife doesn't come in and beat me for logging onto Tuners

 

[92tsifwd]

Yesterday I was getting on it pretty good at night at only 27* out and I noticed that my exhaust manifold was glowing a little. I was not knocking at wot and timing was a little less because of the low ambiant temp and 18psi. Also when fully warm my car has been running at 203* F to 216* F even when it is 27* outside. I was getting 1-7 counts of knock at my part thr setting last night but, would that cause this? Is the glowing manifold indicating high egts? Also would it running hot cause this?

 

[DSM90AWD]

normal.. the leaner you go the more the mani will glow

You will be ok unless you start seeing knock > 6.