Fuel Cut Defencer

[KlowdDragon]

Ok, in the November 2003 issue of Import Tuner they did a power pages on a 1992 Eclipse Turbo. The power pages did tests on the HKS Fuel Cut Defencer and it got +47.2hp and +24.1tq and stopped the power spikes and put a steady horsepower increase all the way across the graph. I thought those were some high numbers for a $150 piece, so I looked up on it. Turns out the FCD puts the fuel cut on turbo charged cars to a higher and safer level so you don't have to worry about experiencing the "buck" that is common with modified dsm's. This is great, but theres one problem, they only make it for the 1st gen dsm's and is not compatible with the 2nd gens. I see so many complaints about the fuel cut on the 2nd gens, so I was thinkin about getting one made for the 2g dsm. There is actually a topic here that is 2 pages long of people that experience premature fuel cut, so that might help convince a company to make it. The problem is that HKS is a Japanese company, so its gonna be hard to get to them, so I was thinking about getting another company to make one, an american company would be ideal. Post your opinions on doing this.

 

[90AWDTalon]

Turns out the FCD puts the fuel cut on turbo charged cars to a higher and safer level so you don't have to worry about experiencing the "buck" that is common with modified dsm's.

Don't do it, fuel cut is there for a reason. The way the FCD works is very unsafe. That article was a load of crap. To eliminate fuel cut the FCD locks the airflow rating going to the ecu so that it doesn't ever see a reading that brings on fuel cut. The problem with this is there is no more fuel to be had and you will lean out.

If you want to get rid of fuel cut your options are, DSMlink, EPROM, or larger injectors and then an air/fuel controller of some sort to compensate for the larger injectors.

 

[NewB2dsm]

Don't do it, fuel cut is there for a reason. The way the FCD works is very unsafe. That article was a load of crap. To eliminate fuel cut the FCD locks the airflow rating going to the ecu so that it doesn't ever see a reading that brings on fuel cut. The problem with this is there is no more fuel to be had and you will lean out.

If you want to get rid of fuel cut your options are, DSMlink, EPROM, or larger injectors and then an air/fuel controller of some sort to compensate for the larger injectors.

Bingo, and we have a winner

 

[cbellsondsm]

not to mention it makes it run lean, it fools the comp. into thinking theres less air flowing in it, thus, not lettin fuel cut on, can u say knock

 

[Defiant]

Ok, in the November 2003 issue of Import Tuner they did a power pages on a 1992 Eclipse Turbo. The power pages did tests on the HKS Fuel Cut Defencer and it got +47.2hp and +24.1tq and stopped the power spikes and put a steady horsepower increase all the way across the graph.

And let me guess. Further back in the magazine, is there an ADVERTISMENT for that very item? O, what a coincidence. Magazines are whores, and like all whores, the just want your money. And, they will tell you anything to get it from you

I thought those were some high numbers for a $150 piece, so I looked up on it. Turns out the FCD puts the fuel cut on turbo charged cars to a higher and safer level so you don't have to worry about experiencing the "buck" that is common with modified dsm's.

So, they obviate the safeguard that Mitsubishi so carefully thought out to keep the engine from running really well for those few miliseconds that it's burning the molten aluminum that used to be your pistons.

The problem is that HKS is a Japanese company, so its gonna be hard to get to them, so I was thinking about getting another company to make one, an american company would be ideal.

Uh... ever hear of the World Wide Web? You can get anything from anyplace. Or, from down the street if the shop carries HKS accessories. Which they probably do.

 

[Sk8er07999]

The FCD is like an AFC meaning that it just modifies the input from the MAS. More precisly the airflow reading. The FCD eliminates fuel cut by lowering the signal from the MAS to the PCM. So it lies to the PCM and tell it that less air is coming in then realy is. So the pcm will add only a certain amount of fuel to optimize the air fuel ratio. So if it gets a signal that says less are is coming in then realy is it will add that much fuel so you will actually run lean. Which we all know is bad. There are other ways to get around fuel cut. Research and you will learn alot.

 

[KlowdDragon]

And let me guess. Further back in the magazine, is there an ADVERTISMENT for that very item? O, what a coincidence. Magazines are whores, and like all whores, the just want your money. And, they will tell you anything to get it from youSo, they obviate the safeguard that Mitsubishi so carefully thought out to keep the engine from running really well for those few miliseconds that it's burning the molten aluminum that used to be your pistons.
Uh... ever hear of the World Wide Web? You can get anything from anyplace. Or, from down the street if the shop carries HKS accessories. Which they probably do.

hmm, why did everyone else sound smart and that they know what they were talking about but then you just sounded like an ass, hmmm

oh, and i checked, and no, there was no advertisement for the product, hmmm

 

[LandoAWD]

hmm, why did everyone else sound smart and that they know what they were talking about but then you just sounded like an ass, hmmm

oh, and i checked, and no, there was no advertisement for the product, hmmm

He is sarcastic. Deal with it.

All of Defiant's points are right on, and FWIW, I am starting to go crazy hearing about grounding wires, FCDs, and a test pipe makeing 60whp.

Import Tooner is a terrible magazine to base TUNING off of.

 

[DevilSperm]

He is sarcastic. Deal with it.

All of Defiant's points are right on, and FWIW, I am starting to go crazy hearing about grounding wires, FCDs, and a test pipe makeing 60whp.

Import Tooner is a terrible magazine to base TUNING off of.

!!!

 

[hostile]

You would be better off buying a set of 550's and an afc... then you wont hit fuel cut.

Also dsmlink will work bad ass with 450's... no fuel cut... and a ton of other features well worth the 600 dollars.

 

[bOOstd GSX]

Defiant, yet again... your the best. :laugh:

 

[Spyder4g64]

Uh... ever hear of the World Wide Web? You can get anything from anyplace. Or, from down the street if the shop carries HKS accessories. Which they probably do.

He was talking about getting HKS to make a FCD for 2G's(which i dont know what generation they DO make them for). Not trying to find a retailer of HKS.

 

[DevilSperm]

Wtf ...

 

[spyderturbo007]

I hope in 2 1/2 years he found what he was looking for.

 

[DSMunknown]

This has been (I think) the eighth re-surrected thread I have seen in the past 2-3 weeks.