fiberglass

[lasteclispe]

hi i read some of the tutorials some of the dsmtuners members wrote on fiberglassing. i i wanted to try some of the stuff. i went to homedepot and wallmart looking the Materials needed. (thats where they said i can find the Materials in the tutorials). but both of thoes stores didnt have what was needed. anyone know of any other stores i can try in the nyc area?.....ty

o and one more thing. in this http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=99912
tutorial he fixted his front bumper with fiberglass but aint the front bumpers in out cars plastic? how could u fix it with fiberglass?

 

[gs-t spidey]

Urathane to be correct and try pep boys or autozone i think I saw something like that last time I was there

 

[Eagle_Summit]

i see he was using fiberglass Jelly. Dont use that crap unless your gonna do sum heavy work. Just get the clearish liquid type resin works alot better i think. Also pick up sum cheep 50cent paint brushes. I learned to use the paintbrushes like this: Dip the paintbrush in your resin/hardener mixture, then apply sum to the area were your gonna put your fiberglass mat. Place the mat on there and then give it quick little stabs with the paintbrush. Works like a charm. If you see ANY little white/clear spots, put some more resin on there or get a pin and poke a hole in it. Thats air and it will crack or bust open when it hardens and you go to sand it.


And also you can use fleece instead of fiberglass mat. Fleece will absorb ALOT more of the mix and in the end be alot heavier but stronger. When you get to the point where you going to put on your bondo for the finishing touches and smoothening (sp? if thats even a word) add a bit of fiberglass resin to your bondo mix to make it a bit runnier and easier to work with. I have yet to try the resin in bondo mix, but i heard it works like a charm and i guess its ALOT easier to lay down and make smooth.

o yeah, have fun sanding

 

[lasteclispe]

ty for all the info but u guys still didnt give me the answer the the 3 main questions i had. someone please help........ty

 

[Chuckster]

I only see three question marks in your post and they've all been answered!

Question #1: Gs-spidey said look at the auto parts stores
Question #2: Gs-spidey said the bumpers are made out of urethane
Question #3: Eagles Summit told you the bumper repair was made with fiberglass jelly

 

['96_Talon_TSi]

Yes, you can get it at an autopart store, but i would recommend getting it from a marine supply store or somewhere (they will have heavier fiberglass).

THe factory bumpers are urethane. Perhaps he had a fiberglass aftermarket bumper that he repaired.

 

[yoshimitsuspeed]

If you can wait fiberglast.com has a much bigger and cheaper selection than local stores. Otherwise I would do some local searches, yellow pages, google local, ect. Find a fiberglass suply store. The stuff you get at a auto parts store is a joke compared to what you can get from someone that specializes in it. They wil also have tools like stiff bristle brushes, and rollers, and they will be able to awnser questions and make your life much easier.


If it itches dont scratch it

 

[Redmachine]

[QUOTE='96_Talon_TSi]Yes, you can get it at an autopart store, but i would recommend getting it from a marine supply store or somewhere (they will have heavier fiberglass).

THe factory bumpers are urethane. Perhaps he had a fiberglass aftermarket bumper that he repaired.[/QUOTE]
I agree 100% with the going to a marine supply store. It is also cheaper and you get more. The Fiberglass mat/cloth you get at walmart is only 1/2 oz, the stuff they sell at the marine supply store starts at 3 oz and goes up, so for every 6 layers of walmart mat you could be laying down 1.

 

[devlish]

depending on what your making, fleece works good too. if it's just visual and not structural, you don't need to go as thick

marine supply stores are a good source, as are body shop supply stores, Select Products (online) & Fiberglast.com, check out homedepot/menards/fleet for the cheaper stuff. works, just not as good. my first project was done with Fleet Farm/Walmart products, and i haven't had one problem ever, but since i've graduated to a little better materials. the cheap stuff DOES work if done properly though.

i have a few writeups on my webpage as well if you haven't seen them yet.

good luck with your project
~Kurt

 

[lasteclispe]

ok. so we cant repair the stock bumpers with fiberglass?? ....that was my question in the first place chuckster. i dont car about what its made out of. i just wanted to know if we could repair it with fiberglass?????

 

[Chuckster]

No, the two different compositions wouldn't bond.

Urethane has a rubbery resiliance that flexes a LOT more than fiberglass. A small push later and the repair made with glass would flex off. I'm sure you've let superglue or epoxy dry on a flexible surface and twisted it off, just like ice cubes out of a tray!

 

[lasteclispe]

ty for the reply chuckster. but now i have another question..... is there no way to fix a cracked stock bumper?....ty

 

[Chuckster]

Off the top of my head, I don't think so.

Fiberglass is really easy, but dirty to work with. Read some, but realize most people bail out before the job is done. The hardest part of all is getting the work smooth. That's why I think it will be a good challenge to conceal a glass repair on a bumper.

Wanna drive out to Branchburg, NJ? I'll be outta town until late Sunday, but anything after Monday is good.

 

[yoshimitsuspeed]

The secret to making it look good easily is, The more bigger power tools you have the less it will suck.
If you have a good power sander with 36,80,180,320,grit paper 600 and 1000 if you are polishing gel coat.
a grinder with big balls and something like a 24 grit pad
and a die grinder or drill with some barrel sanding attachments
Life will be much easier.

I am not sure but it seems there has to be some sort of adhesive out there designed for bonding polyurathane

 

[Thomas91169]

im just getting finished with a huge glassing project that will delete my back seat in light of 2 reverse mounted audiobahn 12's and a big audiobahn flame amp.

its a pain in the ass to work with but once you get the hand of it(spread, dap, twist) it really goes smooth. and you cant get fiberglass smooth, you must use something like bondo to fill in the rest and smooth it out. i was going to try to find some of that foam filler that they used on "TLC Rides" but i couldnt find any. so i used about 3 gallons of bondo, sanded it with a belt sander with the belt halfway hanging off so it would contour around the curves. then i used high filler primer and about 4 cans of it with 2 cans of normal primer over it. im going to paint it saturday.

it was a learning experience. my whole family and freinds thought i was way in over my head when they saw the back taped off getting prepped for making the mold. but now that its almost dont people are asking for it for their cars.

heres a link of my buildup
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/509528/6

 

[lasteclispe]

can anyone help me in a way to fix the stock bumper. but ty for the info on the fiberglass box. ill be doing something like that soon. i already have 2 audiobahn flame q subs (the 1100 watts rms ones). i had them for a few months but i cant afford an amp yet..... also u went from this http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/509000-509999/509528_45.jpg to this http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/509000-509999/509528_46.jpg .... looks like u skiped a billion steps. do u have any pics of the steps in the middle?....ty

 

[lasteclispe]

anyone???

 

[Thomas91169]

sorry i just updated my page, so you can look there. my camera stopped taking pics so my impatient ass said screw it ill just type out it all and get er done.