Evo8 or GSX ?

[Lagos]

hey, im thinking about buying an Evo8. do you guys think that its worth the extra money or should i just get a nice looking GSX. what does the evo have that the gsx does not? i know the turbo is bigger, but what about the tranny, is it stronger then the 2g tranny? or how about the crank. if im going to have to deal with a walking crank, id rather it happen in a gsx then in a 30,000 evo. please list anything youi can think of and your opinions on what i should do.

 

[TimDSM]

Let's see, car with warranty vs. car without. What do you think?

Evo VIII's are great cars, but from what I hear they suffer some minor clutch problems. Though I'm unsure of the validity of those claims, seeing as how they come from people who modify them, and obviously abuse the hell out of them as well.

If you're going to spend 30k on a car, buy a Cobra. It's the best bang for the buck, and you just can't compare the whine of a 4-cylinder to the low-pitched roar of a supercharged v8.

 

[DSMSpyder99]

Let's see, car with warranty vs. car without. What do you think?

Evo VIII's are great cars, but from what I hear they suffer some minor clutch problems. Though I'm unsure of the validity of those claims, seeing as how they come from people who modify them, and obviously abuse the hell out of them as well.

If you're going to spend 30k on a car, buy a Cobra. It's the best bang for the buck, and you just can't compare the whine of a 4-cylinder to the low-pitched roar of a supercharged v8.

i just went to a mitsu dealer they have 2003 EVO for 25K. Also the only thing the cobra can do better than an EVO is go in a straight line. The EVO can brake better, and the cobra handling is a joke compared to EVO. The interior is the cheapest thing i have ever seen (my bro has a Roush 2 Mustang) it looks like its been made by rubbermaid or glad

oh yea Hot Rod Magazine did a comparison of the STi and Cobra (same issue as John Shep's article). The STi DESTROYED IT in every comparsion yes even in a drag. What a joke a 4.6L Supercharged V8 lost to a 2.5L turbocharged H-4 :laugh: :laugh:

 

[ckozlgod]

evo vs. gsx????

no comparison.

Evo: 1. More power
2.Warranty
3.Let's face it...it is a hell of a lot more reliable than a gsx/t
4.Newer
5.Handling
6.Braking
7.it's an EVO!!!!!!

 

[ckozlgod]

in every comparsion yes even in a drag

your telling me a car with RWD and about 90 more horsepower lost in a drag?

I find that VERY hard to believe

 

[Addict]

The EVO is great performing car. If you can handle the payments and still be able to mod it and live a life....go for it. Otherwise a GSX/GST is your best shot.

evo vs. gsx????

3.Let's face it...it is a hell of a lot more reliable than a gsx/t

I wouldn't go that far. Its still a 4G63... Wait till the car is a few more years old then we'll see if its more reliable.

 

[AWDPetmitsu]

your telling me a car with RWD and about 90 more horsepower lost in a drag?

I find that VERY hard to believe

Probably the Cobra's wheelspin hampered its acceleration times. AWD, baby!!!

 

[neuromonic]

Obviously the Evo is a better car, but you are paying for it. Also when you buy a new car you don't have to worry about what kind of abuse the vehicle saw from its previous owner. But then again there's the payments. I suggest you find out exactally what your payments on the EVO would be (inlcude insurance!) and put that amount away every month for a couple of months. It's suprising how seemingly affordable payments can make you very car-poor. (That's when you have a hot car, but don't have any money left over for things like movies, food, and taking the chick(s) out places.)

 

[o0_pyro_0o]

tell you what, if you're worried about it........buy the evo and I'll trade you for my gsx

 

[AWDPetmitsu]

Well the GSX has it's looks going for it, while the EVO has it's handling. It depends on what you want. Some will argue that you can modify the GSX to handle like the EVO, but I don't think it'll be the same, especially when it comes to the steering ratio, which is a function of the steering rack. I've never seen aftermarket racks with a quicker ratio for DSMs.

Do you want a performer out of the box or would you rather do some modding?

How much do you really want to spend?

 

[Lagos]

for the record i want my next car to be AWD turbo, not a good damn v8!

what i would really want to know is what has been upgraded in the evo from the gsx?

i know the evo has very nice brembo brakes.
nice stock 17s
what about the tranny? is it the same one as the 2g?
the turbo is a 1g turbo, right?
any change on crankwalk with the evo?
what does a stock evo run in the 1/4 mile?
should i look into buying an STI ?


i was reading over some evo msg boards and they are starting to look like this place...lots of reports of little things going wrong. if im going to have a car that i have to fix all the time, then i would rather it not be an expensive car, but then again i will have a warrenty with the car.

 

[DSMSpyder99]

for the record i want my next car to be AWD turbo, not a good damn v8!

what i would really want to know is what has been upgraded in the evo from the gsx?

i know the evo has very nice brembo brakes.
nice stock 17s
what about the tranny? is it the same one as the 2g?
the turbo is a 1g turbo, right?
any change on crankwalk with the evo?
what does a stock evo run in the 1/4 mile?
should i look into buying an STI ?


i was reading over some evo msg boards and they are starting to look like this place...lots of reports of little things going wrong. if im going to have a car that i have to fix all the time, then i would rather it not be an expensive car, but then again i will have a warrenty with the car.

the 4G63 in DSM and the 4G63 in EVO are COMPETELY different engines you cant compare the two. EVO 4-8 dont have any problems with crankwalk to my knowledge that is one of the reasons they decided to redesign the whole long block. The EVO tranny is better than the DSM but the clutch is weak. EVO 1/4 miles are around 14.3. The EVO use a TWIN-SCROLL 16G which gives it characteristic of a ball-bearing turbo. STi will cost you more since they are "limited production" most dealers put a markup rate.

ckozlgod:HOT ROD issue Janurary 2004 pages 20-23

 

[Slappster]

Looks warranty mod potential
gsx>evo evo>gsx evo>gsx

If I were you I'd wait for the evo rs to come out.

 

[Jimmy Jr.]

The interior on the Evo is nearly as shitty as the interior on a Cobra and uh who cares anyway. I would get an Evo but if you want straight line speed the Cobra would be the way to go. Exhaust, pulley, tires and you have a high 11 sec ride. Not much can touch them. The Evo can be made even faster but will take some heavy modding to get it there. If you're about handling the Evo is far superior.

 

[TheTSiGuy]

the 4G63 in DSM and the 4G63 in EVO are COMPETELY different engines you cant compare the two. EVO 4-8 dont have any problems with crankwalk to my knowledge that is one of the reasons they decided to redesign the whole long block. The EVO tranny is better than the DSM but the clutch is weak. EVO 1/4 miles are around 14.3. The EVO use a TWIN-SCROLL 16G which gives it characteristic of a ball-bearing turbo. STi will cost you more since they are "limited production" most dealers put a markup rate.

ckozlgod:HOT ROD issue Janurary 2004 pages 20-23

Only thing to disgress is the 1320 times of the evolution. A 14.3 is a little on the conservative side, as ALOT of evolutions run 13.7 or better in some cases.

But yeah, if you can afford an evolution, i'd say why not?

 

[fat pat]

ive seen bone stock evos run 12.9s. Any capable driver will be at least able to pull a 13.3 out of an evo, depending on track conditions. Evos are damn fast cars, and with basic bolt ons, you got yourself mid 12's. Its true, the clutch on evos is weak, my friends went out at 4k. get a good clutch, and a warranty, youll be fine. Oh yes, the clutch isnt covered under warranty no matter how fast it goes out.

 

[Lagos]

how about the new Evo 8 MR thats about to come out with a 6 speed. anyone how if that one will cost more then the current ones do?

 

[JoeWagon]

Of course it will cost more. I read 33k in road&track.

 

[Warhead2k3]

Yeah itll be more, but your getting a fully waranteed(sp?) 12sec car, with absolutly amazing handling.

 

[x camaro owner]

get the evo start out at bone stock 278hp good start for not screwing around with mods which can get you in to trouble some times. as for a cobra why would you by a car cause the exhaust sounds so awesome. plus with gas mileage the sacrifice you are going to make when comparing power is well worth it especially with these prices. i would take an evo over a cobra any day. those evo's are whicked

 

[blMuskrat]

If you're going to go for the Evo, wait for the new MR to come out. It's a 6 speed and just all around an awsome car. I think it's gonna be between $32k and $35k

but BE WARNED: Rumor has it Mitsu wont give warrenty on a Evo with an aftermarket clutch! Check It Out

 

[Eliminat0r]

The interior on the Evo is nearly as shitty as the interior on a Cobra and uh who cares anyway. I would get an Evo but if you want straight line speed the Cobra would be the way to go. Exhaust, pulley, tires and you have a high 11 sec ride. Not much can touch them. The Evo can be made even faster but will take some heavy modding to get it there. If you're about handling the Evo is far superior.

No it wont be a high 11. If you dont own one dont comment because you have no idea what you're talking about. it takes far more than that for the cobra to run 11's. Also ford mustang trannies are weak.

if i were to get an evo id get an rs really who needs a radio and ac.

 

[TazManianDevil]

how much is the insurance for that cobra and evo8

 

[ckozlgod]

Depends...on your age, pts on ur record etc...even where you live.

 

[Lagos]

my other option is too keep the car i have and mod that. i have a very nice looking 98 celica with a jdm gt4 front end conversion. the car has the show but no go. luckly i can also put in the jdm 3sgte motor making my car a low 14sec car stock. the only thing thats holding me back is that im not sure what high hp would be like in a fwd car. any opinions? basicly i need to choose between ....keeping my car and being original or getting out of the box power and awd from the evo.