Data Logger or S-AFC

[GSXlaunch]

First off sorry for the "noob" question...but I was wondering what the differences were between these two "tuning-mods". My current mods are as follows:
Ported EVOIII turbo w/34mm flapper **not installed yet, 1.75" compressor outlet **not installed yet, mitsu metal head gasket, arp head studs, 92 Tranny, open K&N, 2.5" inch from turbo to 2.5" muffler, no cats, MBC, Walbro 255lph with re-wire **not installed yet, Straight Line Spec UICP/elbow, car lightened pre-stage 1, 88 Conquest FMIC **not installed yet, rest is stock for now

My goal is 12's. I am sure I will need to tune the car with something but am looking for something that will work...nothing too fancy. It seems like the data logger is cheaper but will it give me the same support as the safc? I may be ordering injectors and either the data logger or safc this week. Basically, I was wondering what my next two mods should be. Thanks for the help.

TT

 

[LandoAWD]

Originally posted by GSXlaunch
First off sorry for the "noob" question...but I was wondering what the differences were between these two "tuning-mods". My current mods are as follows:
Ported EVOIII turbo w/34mm flapper **not installed yet, 1.75" compressor outlet **not installed yet, mitsu metal head gasket, arp head studs, 92 Tranny, open K&N, 2.5" inch from turbo to 2.5" muffler, no cats, MBC, Walbro 255lph with re-wire **not installed yet, Straight Line Spec UICP/elbow, car lightened pre-stage 1, 88 Conquest FMIC **not installed yet, rest is stock for now

My goal is 12's. I am sure I will need to tune the car with something but am looking for something that will work...nothing too fancy. It seems like the data logger is cheaper but will it give me the same support as the safc? I may be ordering injectors and either the data logger or safc this week. Basically, I was wondering what my next two mods should be. Thanks for the help.

TT

They are 2 different animals . I recommend both.

 

[Coldandafraid]

they both work together... you need both. You monitor with the pocketlogger, and make the actual changes with the AFC.

 

[blk91tsiawd]

Wheres the cheapest you can buy a data logger, I mean everything the palm thing...cable and whatever else you need...

 

[LandoAWD]

Originally posted by blk91tsiawd
Wheres the cheapest you can buy a data logger, I mean everything the palm thing...cable and whatever else you need...

You can get loggers for cheap on E-bay, but I felt it was more prudent to spend a little more to get the support that www.pocketlogger.com provides.

For a cheap palm, check out M100s on E-bay.

 

[GSXlaunch]

dang..I need both? Found this on the safc....

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/newafc.htm

 

[LandoAWD]

Originally posted by GSXlaunch
dang..I need both? Can I adjust timing and boost with the safc?

You can't adjust boost AT ALL with an AFC. In any case, don't you want to know if those "little adjustments" are going to blow your motor?

Think about it:
New motor=$1g or more
Logger= $169

 

[blk91tsiawd]

So all you need is a palm and that cable and your set to log?

 

[dave99gst]

and softwere... unless ya got a laptop - then ya got other options.

 

[Jason84]

best bet is just buy an safc and a datalogger... safc dont adjust boost... just the air/fuel portion of tuning.

 

[DSMTurboEclipse]

I got my M105 for like 30 bucks on Ebay. Its easy to find PDA's cheap.

 

[blk91tsiawd]

so get a M100 or M105, then that 155$ cable and software and your good to go?

 

[Jason84]

yup... ive got an M515

 

[fasteclipse1992]

this is from datalogger.com

The second type of datalogger is one that plugs into an existing system. Our PocketLOGGER product has the ability to read data right from the ECU and record it. The data is obtained from the sensors already installed in the car and that the ECU is already reading. All that needs to be done is to connect the PocketLOGGER cable to the ECU through an already existing connector.

what is the existing connector?

 

[Jason84]

the dataport on your car next to your fusebox by the drivers feet

 

[fasteclipse1992]

hmm i got like 3 plug ins i have no clue what they go to or what they do is there a pictured diagram i can see online for a better comparison with my 3 connections?

 

[Jason84]

its a white plug right on the side of the fuse box about 1"x1/2" or so.

 

[psychlow]

It's a white connector right next to your fusebox.

It's got four pins (I believe) in it. It's an OBD-I connector.

 

[fasteclipse1992]

ok, ty