Chilton or Haynes?

[Taylor3180]

Chilton or Haynes?

 

[marq95gst]

Haynes. I have Chilton, but it doesn't display as much in depth stuff as Haynes.

 

[sd_ff22]

I have both and my chiltons is MUCH more thorough than my haynes.

 

[Taylor3180]

2 people 2 diff opinions which is more in depth more pictures and such?

 

[hereitcomes]

I have a chilton 90-98 DSM guide, and a 90-94 1g SPECIFIC haynes guide. Both have similar information but the diagrams and how too's are easier in the haynes. I enjoy consulting the bibles.

 

[Taylor3180]

Well my buddy has a 90-98 eclipse and such haynes manual but I have a 99. Would that still work for me I don't think the cars changed that much. Just don't wanna get it and have all the socket sizes or stuff like that be different when I get @ss deep in a project. And then all of a sudden nothin is like the manual says.

 

[pnishr]

I consult Haynes (pretty detailed) and the FSM (the REAL bible of knowledge) for things that Haynes doesn't cover.

 

[Defiant]

Talon factory shop manuals. They go for a song on eBay, while Eclipse manuals still float around $60. The differences are too minor to be of any concern, and are mostly in detail issues (electric antenna) that the manuals barely address in the first place.

 

[Splitpi]

http://store.forcedperformance.net/...ode=FP&Product_Code=CD&Category_Code=DSM-Misc

These or similar as defiant said are your best options.

 

[kronus]

Both are alright, but my personal choice is the FSM, <a href="http://tboz.no-ip.com/FSMs/DSM%20&amp;%20Mitsubishi%20FSMs/Mitsubishi%20Eclipse,%20Eagle%20Talon,%20&amp;%20Plymouth%20Laser/" target="_blank">here.</a>

 

[Cs4g63]

Definately go with the factory service manuals. I was lucky enough to get my cousins old ones for free when he bought an EVO.

 

[Fastazzevo]

I have the haynes and its very vague, but useful for the price.

I bought an cd from ebay FSM , but the person hasn't sent it. I already did a paypal claim so we will see what happens. I really wanted that cd though.

 

[kmoore]

Chilton. Just for the simple fact that it shows torque specs right on the page to every bolt/nut

 

[DSMunknown]

Ever consider getting all four? I did.

1. Shop manual
2. DSM Back-up CD manual
3. Haynes
4. Chilton

Don't forget to pick up one of your very own personal tuners!

 

[kronus]

Ever consider getting all four? I did.

1. Shop manual
2. DSM Back-up CD manual
3. Haynes
4. Chilton

Don't forget to pick up one of your very own personal tuners!

"Buy now and I will throw in a book on how to use your new aem tuner in real world situations."

 

[burnnxs]

i got both chiltons and haynes and the chiltons cd < i thought it would have better graphics than the book or zoom in capabilities but nahh dont think its worth it if you already have the book, is really easy fast to look up stuff but thats it

 

[theonenomad]

Cover all....Iv got the Chiltons,Haynes and the service manual.I think I use DSMTuners forum more than all 3

 

[burnnxs]

^^ amen

 

[Cs4g63]

Ever consider getting all four? I did.

1. Shop manual
2. DSM Back-up CD manual
3. Haynes
4. Chilton

Don't forget to pick up one of your very own personal tuners!

Dude that was awesome.

 

[DSMunknown]

Dude that was awesome.

I thought a few of you might enjoy it. I had to use the trusty 'ol Wayback Machine to get it!

 

[FLiP OuT MaN]

Haynes all the way!!!!

 

[DSMboostin15]

Haynes is nice, but in their instructions, they say "remove bolts" and don't tell you that there is a bolt hidden behind something.

 

[DSMunknown]

I am now every cautious about using Haynes (or anything other than the shop manual). Beware. There are torque typos. I was installing my water pump last year and the book said to torque one of the bolts to something like 127 pounds! Now I can't remember if it was Haynes or Chilton, but I had to reluctantly ignore the book and go on instinct.

 

[Defiant]

Torque is almost always a matter of fastener size:
http://www.stealth316.com/2-3s-fastener-tips.htm
Some goofy fasteners have odd torque numbers, or (as in the case of the valve cover bolts) are holding down fragile items that will break long before a "torque value" is reached. It's part of developing a mechanic's "feel" (best done on customer's cars instead of your own).