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this is where i ordered mine from, with the 360 upgrade, and tial 35mm. i've done business with mike before too, and even got a christmas card from him.
 
ok, here's a question i've always had. besides the obvious, what's the difference between the 4 and 5 bolt garrett turbine housings? ever since i decided i wanted to go garrett, i wanted the 4 bolt housing. it looks cleaner, and easier to remove, but does it have any advantages/disadvantages to the 5 bolt housing?
 
yes, due to the design of the 4 bolt housing, it actually produces about 10hp more than the 5 bolt design. The 5 bolt design has been used on the fords since the early 80's. The T31 4 bolt design is new, and flows better than the 5 bolt.
 
z1500: What does 3 days and counting mean???? :confused:

ZSPTurbo: Whos hating??? From what i can see people are just trying to make some points. You get what you pay for is the best one. :thumb:

Ever heard the phrase mod cheap mod twice? When your 270 degree thrust bearing'ed takes a dump if you creep, spike or you decide to go to the track and up the boost because it "should" be ok to 22lbs dont come crying:cry:
It seems to me that cheapturbo is trying to say that the thrust bearings are "good enough". :rolleyes: Well sorry good enough is not ok with me. I want to put my $ with a co that works with DSM's all the time. A co that knows what we will be putting these turbos through. So if i have to pay $125 more for my 360 degree for the reassurance that my non-AOL based company will be around next year and that they will back me up if my turbo takes a dump, then fine I will.:D Just my .02
 
i believe cheapturbo came on here saying that for some of their customers, like the stock block hondas only running 7psi, that the 270 thrust bearing is ok. they have the upgrade option to the 360, so what point is trying to be made here. that's like a company selling stock 2g bypass valves. you guys would say that's stupid, but oh wait, they're for cars that won't see more than 7psi, so what's stupid now?

there are some very valid points here, but remember, this is not a dsm shop, its a turbo shop. so a lot of the stuff won't apply to dsms. i have to pull mine apart when it comes in anyways, so i'll inspect things. i can't see how this turbo will be a pile of turd.

bottom line, we'll wait and see what happens.
 
not to badmouth anyone, because i have no experiance from this company, but it seems to me that a website that uses AOL for an email account and Yahoo! to sell product is a bit sketchy. I use AOL (unfortunately) but i am not hosting a buisness from it. I wouldnt expect to get any customer support from this place, and i hope that nothing goes wrong with your turbo because im pretty sure you will be SOL if that happens. But im glad you did get it in such a timely fashion. Good luck with the install.


Not to get off the subject here but. . .That comment is what i expect to hear from someone who has no idea what it's like to do business online, I work/own an ISP here where I am from and I use a yahoo acct. for certain things, why you ask? Because the mail filters rule and I don't clutter my own machine w/ a bunch of junk mail you always get when you list your e-mail addy all over the internet, he is using his smarts and I bet he gets every order/e-mail request that is sent to him, has 0 percent downtime on his e-mail account, also the website has nothing to do w/ AOL, it is hosted by a completly differen't entity Global Knowledge Group to be exact.

Me
 
The bottom line is ......
You take one of these turbos with the stock/off the shelf thrust bearings & run it at 6 to 9 PSI ....You will get away with it.

You take the same new off the shelf,stock thust bearing turbo & run it on our DSM's
at the boost levels that we need to run the turbo at to be efficient on these cars ....
the stock thrust bearing will "float" & bypass oil .IT WILL RUIN THE TURBO.
 
so again i will reply to this. there is the 360* upgrade available, so what is your point? i don't hear anyone stating that the 270 is fine for 30#s. i don't think the dead horse needs anymore beating. we're all in agreeance that a 270 in unpractical for a higher boost application. so what is the point you people are trying to make?
 
You have to understand that if dsmer's went through shops like this at cheaper prices then DSM only shops would lose their azzes. And they would not be able to ream people anymore. That is why they avoid the question.
You see their first and "ONLY" arguement was that they have 270 thrust but when it was pointed out that there was an upgrade option, it was like they looked right past it and still don't acknowledge it. Strange don't ya think?
 
boosted talon: i would personally NEVER give any of my hardearned money to a fly by night internet company using an AOL e-mail address. Do you realize how easy it is to just delete that email account and never be heard from again? Im sorry you disagree with me but that is your opinion. Go buy your turbo from cheapturbo.com, pay 75 bucks for your 360 degree thrust bearing, and just pray that your turbo doesnt go south before the company does.

The reason, and a very good one at that, for "dsm shops" charging more money for their turbos, is because of time spent on R&D, testing, and standing by their product. MOST dsm shops dont even sell straight garrett turbos and the ones that do are actually not that far off from cheapturbos prices. Call some and find out.

Better yet i will do some research for you. AGP sells a 57 trim t3/t04e .63 ar for $625, Cheapturbo sells it for $549. Add $75 for the "proper" thrust bearing for our car and it will cost you $624 dollars. Dont you think an extra buck is worth it to know that you are buying from a reputable company? I certainly do. That is just one example, the first one i happened to look at.
 
Lets see T3/T04E 50 Trim, plus Tial 35mm wastegate 759.00 (shipped) plus 75 thrust bearing upgrade, $824.00

Other shops T3/T04E 50 Trim 725 (plus shipping Say 15) Wonder why they charge 100 more for a 50 trim and Cheapturbos doesnt??
Tial Wastegate 225. Total $965.00

Look enough left over for a BOV too! :D
 
Could It be that because they just started up that theyre charging just enough to cover costs??? Also like what was stated befor they prob dont have to pay for r&d or fund a shop race car.
 
The 50 trim you get from Cheap turbos and the 50 trim you get from AGP are two totally different turbos. There are different 50 trims, and different housings. AGP is a t04e 50 trim.

They charge $100 more cause they put the proper housing on the wheel to make it work right.
 
Originally posted by Unreal

They charge $100 more cause they put the proper housing on the wheel to make it work right.

So are you saying that garret doesn't know what housings work best for their turbos? I suppose AGP knows more than garret about garret turbos! LOL. This is good stuff keep it comin.
 
Originally posted by Unreal
The 50 trim you get from Cheap turbos and the 50 trim you get from AGP are two totally different turbos. There are different 50 trims, and different housings. AGP is a t04e 50 trim.

They charge $100 more cause they put the proper housing on the wheel to make it work right.

A 50 trim wheel is a 50 trim wheel. Whats the difference in housings?? The one cheapturbo uses is a t04e a/r 60 3 inch inlet and 2 inch outlet.
 
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