car leans to the left

[EclipticalGS]

My car leans to the left a great deal. It not jsut in the back (gas tank) but its also in the front, i took off my summer rims and wheels a week ago and the tires has gouges tore out of them, What can affect ride height like that? Is it all springs or is it struts too. On my other dsm i have never had a problem with my Koni suspesion and i have 20's and 245's width on that! This jsut seems weird to me...is it the springs that make the ride height ??? or do struts affect ride height too. this cars setup is GR-2's with h&R springs. Could my struts be blown on the left.?? OR could my springs be broken or exhausted or w.e on the left? Thanks, this GS car is jsut a money pit foreal.

(yes i do ahve a camber kit) obviously
Also , when i make a right turn the cars wweight and inertia throws on the left so i hear a scrape noise from tires, but sometimes i can hear something like popping or slipping out of palce, like the spring is falling of the strut..but i checked it out it all looks good.

Could it be wheelbearing too? or balljoint front and rear? thanks guys

 

[cheap90gsx]

when did you last get an alignment? for some reason when i installed gr-2's they were already blown after like 10,000 miles. not sure if it was just because i installed them.

 

[EclipticalGS]

I did an alignment at work. Its not pulling, ive been driving on these struts for 15,000 miles so far....but would struts affect ride height???

 

[PieEyedPiper]

It's normal for a lowered 2g to, as Defiant puts it, list to the left.
There has been some speculation as to why this occurs. But nothing definitive. Some cars don't exhibit the problem as much as others do. It was VERY obvious when I installed my Illuminas/Prokits.

However, I suspect that the upper control arms play a large factor in this phenomenon. When I replaced my upper A-arms with the SPC units my car balanced out perfectly. There is no more than an 1/8" discrepancy between sides, front an rear now. And that is well within wear characteristics of bushings that are 120k old.

Hopefully that sheds some light on your situation.

Also, in your profile it mentions you have a 4" drop. I can only hope that you're joking.

 

[EclipticalGS]

The blue eclipse GS in my picture has a 3 inch drop..GR-2s and H&R springs are in it now. I drive on 215-35z-R18 tires which arent that big with the profile of the tires. The right sade has 2.5 inches space between tire and wheel well....the left side however has only 1/4" of play....personally i dont think a control arm can really throw off 2-1/4" of height..But if it can...can you give me a site to the SPC units because if that is so..i need control arms front and rear on the left side....Oh..and also, there is no dampering or anything on the left side...when i hit something i hear clunking from the spring and or strut..when i push the car down it stays down....

And yes I ahve 2 other dsm's....GST is lowered 4-inch on skunk2 modded coils..but i repalced them over the month with a airbag kit..so i can get from normal ride height to 4-inch drop..my body kit sits an inch above ground...This is my competition audio/looks car...

My other GSX has koni's and is dropped 2-inch and i have a set of 245-30Z-R20's that i use whenever im not draggin at the strip. never had a problem with left being lower then right with either of these cars...

Where can i find the SPC kit?? money is not an issue..jsut wanna correct this prblem as the blue GS is my winter car for now..and its really bugging me hearing that noise.

 

[GSeX02]

little things like tire pressure and alignment can vastly quicken this process to happen too.

 

[EclipticalGS]

Ok...heres the thing i found out with a little searching..if any1 could jsut look at this diagram and ill explain.
http://opusx.dyndns.org/garage/camberkit/RearUpperArm.jpg

Ok, sticking up from the hub is a boomerang shaped control arm...with the bushing. That connects to the upper (U-shaped) Control arm with a horizontal bolt which then connect to the body via SPC camber kit.

Now what ive noticed is that when the tire hits a bump, the space in between the top of the tire and that connection of the upper control arms (that horizontal bolt/ bushing thing) that conect the U-shaped thing to the boomerang thing, the space is supposed to stay the same because the boomerang thing is connected to the hub and tire and should move the same up and down no matter what.....Well in this case when i hit a bump...my tire hits the that bushing/horizontal bolt and takes gouges out of the tires...Why would this happen? thanks.

 

[PieEyedPiper]

If money is no object I would simply take it to a professional.
There are a lot of unnatural things at work here. You could have damaged suspension/control arms for one thing. And at the very least it sounds like you have a blown shock or damaged spring on that left corner. Those GR-2's are a stock replacements and were never intended to ride at anything lower than stock height.
Also, your use of large wheels, massive drop, large tires, and that camber kit you have are all working against each other and could certainly be complicating any existing issue - if they're not the the actual cause, which is also likely.

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/art...d-aluminum-adjustable-upper-control-arms.html
Here is my write-up on the SPC arms, available from RRE. But I would hesitate to just throw more parts at the situation since there are clearly other factors at work. I doubt that the normal 2g "listing" to the left deal would answer why one side is 2.25" lower than the opposite corner. But maybe the difference is so dramatic because of that huge drop. For me, the difference was within an inch.

My best guess is that your use of mismatched and damaged parts are the sole cause of your problems.
Hopefully you can get this all straightened out.

 

[eclipsemike1989]

yeah each one can effect it, the strust can be messed up and not helping the springs and vise versa man, depends on how they are, were both changed at the same time, were they brand new and they could have been messed up even if they were new, i would say if u got the time then switch stuff to the right side if u wanna do it yourself last i knew it u can put em on either side, see if its just the springs or the struts u know if it leans then to the left then u got a problem with another part, let me know if that helps i can see if i can find ya some more info later

 

[EclipticalGS]

i pulled the left side rear spring where its the worst, and also pulled the right side rear spring...When i set both springs next to eachother, the left one is about 2" shorter than the right spring. Also, my strut on the left side is leaking behind where i couldnt see until removed. Why did it wear so much on this left side??? I didnt know a spring could go bad like that...15,000 miles on them...stupid.