kiggly
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- Feb 17, 2003
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Ann Arbor,
Michigan
I'm trying to switch over to a manual brake setup and looking for some pads that have a little higher friction coefficient than the generic semi-metallics I've been running.
History:
The OEM setup with the 1g dual piston big brakes, OEM master, 1g turbo brake booster (7"&8" tandem), and an electric vacuum pump could hold the car on the line. This setup was of questionable long-term reliability, noisy, heavy, added electrical draw, and just a bunch of big parts. I ran a pressure sensor on the brake line at the end of last year and was surprised to see pressures as high as 2600-2700psi when holding it on the line.
Today:
Going through the system, I thought I could make over 2000psi with a modified pedal ratio (7.5:1) and a 3/4" master cylinder. Due to the packaging in the car and the lateral cage bar under my heels, my ability to push on the pedal was not as good as I was hoping and I can only make about 1700psi. I purchased a 5/8" master as the 3/4" had more extra stroke than I thought it would after the addition of the braided hoses from JNZ. I'm still concerned I will not be able to hold it confidently with the new master though. Measuring a couple stops in my driveway and looking at g's vs pressure, I'm coming out to the pads only gripping at about a 0.30 coefficient of friction.
If I can find some pads that are above 0.45 cold, I'll be in great shape. I do not know if anybody makes pads for a DSM that hit this when dead cold. What are the grippiest autocross or street pads that work cold? I emailed Brakeman and Hawk, but I'm still waiting to hear back from them on their drag race pads that are 0.6-ish mu, but don't work at high temps. I'm not too worried about that, but I do still stop the car with the brakes so I need something that is reasonable at a dull glow at least.
What experience does anybody have with pads for the 1g big brakes that are a high cold coefficient of friction?
Thanks,
Kevin
History:
The OEM setup with the 1g dual piston big brakes, OEM master, 1g turbo brake booster (7"&8" tandem), and an electric vacuum pump could hold the car on the line. This setup was of questionable long-term reliability, noisy, heavy, added electrical draw, and just a bunch of big parts. I ran a pressure sensor on the brake line at the end of last year and was surprised to see pressures as high as 2600-2700psi when holding it on the line.
Today:
Going through the system, I thought I could make over 2000psi with a modified pedal ratio (7.5:1) and a 3/4" master cylinder. Due to the packaging in the car and the lateral cage bar under my heels, my ability to push on the pedal was not as good as I was hoping and I can only make about 1700psi. I purchased a 5/8" master as the 3/4" had more extra stroke than I thought it would after the addition of the braided hoses from JNZ. I'm still concerned I will not be able to hold it confidently with the new master though. Measuring a couple stops in my driveway and looking at g's vs pressure, I'm coming out to the pads only gripping at about a 0.30 coefficient of friction.
If I can find some pads that are above 0.45 cold, I'll be in great shape. I do not know if anybody makes pads for a DSM that hit this when dead cold. What are the grippiest autocross or street pads that work cold? I emailed Brakeman and Hawk, but I'm still waiting to hear back from them on their drag race pads that are 0.6-ish mu, but don't work at high temps. I'm not too worried about that, but I do still stop the car with the brakes so I need something that is reasonable at a dull glow at least.
What experience does anybody have with pads for the 1g big brakes that are a high cold coefficient of friction?
Thanks,
Kevin