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Blew Dipstick, Now Smoke Coming out Tailpipe

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GSXeclipsePSI

20+ Year Contributor
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Jul 7, 2003
New Port Richey, Florida
Ok, was out like nice, car ran like a dream after fixings a boost leak.


We driving around, HI boost and Low Boost. Well after high boosting 1 time, I notice oil pooring out the rear end.


I pull over into a gas station to find my dipstick popped out and a oilly mess all over the place. I think start the car, and smoke is puffing out.


I did the car home maybe the .4 mile and park it. I wake up this morning look for oil leak, clean up oil. Start car, still puffing light amounts of smoke.


NOW, I take it for a ride, steady smoke trail untill I boost, the clouds gets really big then dies out.

MY car is also not ideling correctly. I bought this 6bolt for my 1998 GSX maybe put on 30k.

When removing the dipstick while the car is on, puffs of smoke come out of the OIL DIPSTICK.

Someone give me some idea's. I have blown the stock turbo before, but it kinds of reminds me of that.



Thanks for you answers!
 
Def sounds like a blown turbo.. Same thing happend to mine. I redid my valves and piston rings too however. I did this to make sure this stuff doesn't happend again. Did you happend to check if your dsm is burning oil?? Possibly check your spark plugs to make sure it's not something more serious. Good luck
 
Ok, pulled my plugs just to get a look. The oil covered all but 1 spark plug.

Oil covered like this

CAS SENSOR ---- (CYC)------(CYC)-----(CYC)----(CYC) CAM GEAR
-----------------------OIL-------CLEAN------OIL-------OIL----------------------------------------

The only plug with no oil on it was clean, brownish tint as normal.... Please please say its a head gasket, I need a car! Motor is too much right now!
 
I checked the turbo of shaft play, I felt a tiny, tiny tiny tiny (i mean slight) movement of the shaft, but nothing I have never felt before when checking the turbo for shaft play..


So are my rings gone...


I hope not, I just moved out of my dads house and I"m soo low on cash, I can't afford a Headgasket repair but will do it anyways, the motor, I'm gonna sell it.

I checked my pcv valve maybe 600 miles ago, it didn't stick but regardless there is oil on top of the pistons.... so i guess i'm srewed.


coolant looks fine
 
Compression test. Without searching myself I believe thats caused by large amounts of blowby i.e bad piston rings. Bad valve stem seals are not going to pressurize the crank case enough to blow out your dip stick. But compression test is an absolute must.
 
Ok, I dont have a compression tester and I can't walk to autozone to get one. But I did the spark plug thingy and I only get oil on Cyl. w.e. the one closest to the timing belt. So should I still think its a valve seal?
 
Ok, I dont have a compression tester and I can't walk to autozone to get one. But I did the spark plug thingy and I only get oil on Cyl. w.e. the one closest to the timing belt. So should I still think its a valve seal?


Sure if you have money to throw away for a new head. Go and buy yourself a compression tester. You cant even try to figure out what the problem is until you start to eliminate other possibilities. There are quite a few things that can cause you to burn oil, valve seals, bad piston rings, bad turbo seals, head gasket, pcv valve, donkeys kicking your car at night. But I would suggest a compression test. At least it will help you ifgure out what it is not.
 
ok, i will get the compression tester as soon as I can. I have been in a rehab to mental crisis so I just got released. I need to get my car working soon tho, I have alot to do. Can you tell me some more things to try besides a compression tester so I can narrow it down without posting and reposting soo much.


thanks guys for your help

kendel
 
Valve seals usually mean smoke on startup and not usually on idle or leave a trail unless its really bad. Do a compression test, but sometimes a compression test won't tell you everything... You could have bad oil rings and good compression rings and still smoke, but it is very unlikely.
 
results on the compression test:

Cyl 1 - 0 w/oil 15-20

Cyl 2 - 105 w/oil 150

Cyl 3 - 130 no oil

Cyl 4 - 135 no oil

Replaced PCV, they dont seem broken between the used one and new one. The used one sticks lightly and it makes a louder clicking noise.


what next guys?
 
Slowgst440- the blackish smoke you see if fuel. If your car smokes at all here are the normal colors and what they usually are from. Black/greyish=fuel, Blueish=oil, white=coolant.
 
If I blew the headgasket would I for 100% sure have oil mixed with my coolant? Or bent valves or f'd valve seats?

I have yet to see oil mixed with coolant.

Im gonna pull the head off today or tomorrow soo we'll see then!


thanks
kendel
 
If I blew the headgasket would I for 100% sure have oil mixed with my coolant? Or bent valves or f'd valve seats?

I have yet to see oil mixed with coolant.

Im gonna pull the head off today or tomorrow soo we'll see then!


thanks
kendel

Head gasket is not going to cause bent valves. A bad head gasket may mix oil with coolant, cause coolant to leak into your cylinders, oil to leak into your cylinders, both to leak into your cylinders and either or both to leak out. wheww.
 
No I didn't mean a bent valve would cause a blown headgasket. I was listing posible problems. I was asking if blow-by in the crankcase could be from a blown h/g.

I don't think I blew a ring or anything or bent a valve. I am guessing its a h/g with a problem between cyl.1 and cyl.2 somewhere in a oil passage. I have never seen a bottom end by its self so I don't know what passages are what.

thanks
kendel
 
Slowgst440- the blackish smoke you see if fuel. If your car smokes at all here are the normal colors and what they usually are from. Black/greyish=fuel, Blueish=oil, white=coolant.

its deffinatly black smoke i know my turbo is about due for some new seals so some may be oil but it even smells like gas just sittin around idiling it loads up and smokes a little just sittin there anyone kno how hard the seals are to put in
 
I'm thinking that your piston rings are shot or something mechaniclal.... in order for your dipstick to pop out, there has to be pressure in the crank case.... if you have bad rings, it will allow pressure to blow by the rings, build up enough pressure in the case and blow the dipstick out.... this will also cause the engine to smoke black or blueish .... If the engine isn't operating with proper compression, and has bad oil rings,,it will cause the engine to burn off the excess oil on your cylinder walls because the oil rings aren't scraping them efficiently this results in blueish black smoke... Seeing that you have low-no compression in two cylinders, this explains the black smoke.... the fuel isn't burning properly (due to the lack of compression from the rings or cylinders) and is leaving the exhaust as raw unburnt fuel (black smoke)... causing the smelling of gas.... hope this helps....
 
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