best and highest quality and most efficient fmic.

[El Cuervo]

HI guys whats up?? Well, like the title says. I'd like to know the top best or thee best intercooler out there for a 1g dsm. Best overall fitment. The smallest most efficient for
500+hp. Not concern about price at all. Best design and flow, cooling capacity. Shortest piping route possible. I know about the ETS pro-race or the street-strip. Very high quality. And honestly for the performance it is very cheap. I've seen the buschur racing one and its great too but it seems to be a bit bolky when compared to the ETS pro-race. To an extend, size doesn't matter as much as design and flow. Thats why price is not an issue here.
I would like to hear some opinions and thoughts from other high quality intercoolers.

Thanks.

 

[90laserRSfwd]

Buschur, SBR in that order

 

[2gGSX]

If I could have any setup and not worry about fitment, a new Garrett 4" core is what I'd go with.

 

[TSiAWDRatlemstr]

I'm happy with my FMIC from Extreme Turbo Systems. Good price and good parts.

 

[El Cuervo]

The buschur intercooler looks good but it seems that the crash beam has to be deleted or seriously trimmed. I wish someone would fabricate a crash beam that is smaller to fit a big intercooler but stronger than the sactory one. I know they make a race bumper but thats no replacement. Any other intercoolers?? This would be for the 1g.

 

[El Cuervo]

TSIAWDRatlemstr. How do you like the street-strip from ETS? How well does it fit? any trimming of the crash beam? Were you able to keep your fog lights? In general, what things or componests did you have to remove in order to make it fit?
Thanks.

 

[blownturbotsi]

I like my Kinetic, which is basically the same as SBR's. Efficient core, good for quite a bit of power and has short route piping.

 

[Simpleman1]

I have no problem with my Extreme PSI short route FMIC. I will find out in a couple of months if it still going to be efficient with a new bigger turbo set-up.

 

[Defiant]

I challenge anyone to find ten horsepower difference amongst front-mounts. You'll wind up with more differences from path routing and other aspects of the set-up. Concentrate on finding your best (which doesn't always mean cheapest) deal.

 

[CTP]

I challenge anyone to find ten horsepower difference amongst front-mounts. You'll wind up with more differences from path routing and other aspects of the set-up. Concentrate on finding your best (which doesn't always mean cheapest) deal.

Please tell me you're joking.

There are large differences between a quality Precision, Garrett, or Spearco core and some of these lame, ching quan built cores that come in all these kits. Just go compare the flow numbers.

It's usually as simple as looking at the fins. Quality intercoolers usually have very fine, wire looking fins, while the cheap ones have thick strips.

 

[DSMunknown]

IMHO only the most efficient ICs will incorporate flow dividers.

 

[CTP]

IMHO only the most efficient ICs will incorporate flow dividers.

You're confusing intercooler quality with core quality. Anyone can buy a made in Taiwan core off EBay and make some divided end tanks for it. At the end of the day the intercooler still flows like crap. You need to look at what kind of core is being used because that's what will have, by far, the largest effect on how much power you make.

 

[DSMunknown]

You're confusing intercooler quality with core quality. Anyone can buy a made in Taiwan core off EBay and make some divided end tanks for it. At the end of the day the intercooler still flows like crap. You need to look at what kind of core is being used because that's what will have, by far, the largest effect on how much power you make.

You misunderstood what I was trying to say. I don't believe that eBay intercoolers are at the same level of quality of something like DV/DT Fabrications intercoolers. I'm saying even the "best" intercoolers fall short of my expectations without the (proper) implementation of flow dividers.

 

[CTP]

You misunderstood what I was trying to say. I don't believe that eBay intercoolers are at the same level of quality of something like DV/DT Fabrications intercoolers. I'm saying even the "best" intercoolers fall short of my expectations without the (proper) implementation of flow dividers.

I know. I was simply clarifying that just because someone fabs up some nice end tanks it doesn't mean they used a good core.

 

[slowgsr]

Please tell me you're joking.

There are large differences between a quality Precision, Garrett, or Spearco core .

PTE uses Garrett Cores, and Intercooler quality is mainly based on the quality of the core used, since thats what an intercooler is.. The design of the endtanks if it has a decent amount of thought and engineering put into it dont make a whole lot of difference.

 

[DSMunknown]

The design of the endtanks if it has a decent amount of thought and engineering put into it dont make a whole lot of difference.

I highly and emphatically disagree. As you said, thought needs to be in place. Poor end tank design equals an overall poor intercooler to me. End tank design is a very important part of overall intercooler design and efficiency. And as I have said in the past, flow dividers will make a noticeable difference in overall intercooler performance.

 

[2gGSX]

Albert Raczynski of DV/DT fab actually did a white paper-esque report on his endtanks versus the regular box endtanks that a lot of FMICs use. The link isn't fixed on his website yet, but if you e-mail him he'll probably send it to you.

DV/DT Fabrications Knowledge is power

 

[El Cuervo]

Thats why I'm looking for the or one of the best intercooler designs for the 1g. Since I have a little knowledge on this area, I'm asking for some opinions from the members here that have a much more experience and education in this area, that can recommend me some of the higest queality entercooler. This would be for a FP3150 or FP3052.
Thanks everybody for responding and for all your input.

jorge.

 

[Asimmons90GSX]

SBR kits are great. The street setup is cheap and fits great.

 

[420a-t]

What about the huge apexi' intercoolers? I just got mine used, and it looks a ton better than my old jrc fmic.