awd tires

[talontsi98]

I know this has probably been answered before. I want to transfer my rims and tires from my gst to my gsx. The front tires have under 5000 miles on them and the rears maybe 12000. Can I replace the 2 worn tires or do you have to replace all 4 tires at once?
There 205/40/18 series tires.

 

[JrCRXHF]

best to do all 4 with a AWD car.

 

[RedTalon95]

best to do all 4 with a AWD car.

+1.

I would definitely replace all four, especially if they aren't exactly the same tire. When I first bought my car it had mismatched front and rear tires and it was horrible in the rain and snow.

 

[talontsi98]

They are both the same brand, model and size tire. My question is will a few thousand miles of wear do any damage to the drivetrain?

 

[housegsx]

Shouldn't matter. What's 7K miles really? Unless you were burning the ones off on the fwd. Run another lb or 2 of air in the older two so you can sleep at night.

 

[droppinbottom]

They are both the same brand, model and size tire. My question is will a few thousand miles of wear do any damage to the drivetrain?

Please for the love of god sell your car if you have to ask questions like this.

 

[talontsi98]

Thanks for the input. Very helpful

 

[droppinbottom]

Thanks for the input. Very helpful

Sorry to be blunt but think about your question.

Do tires wear evenly? Answer No, that is why tires get rotated is to help in even wear to increase the life span of the tire not the drivetrain.

 

[Archametes]

YES uneven treadwear can affect your drivetrain. That's the whole point of 4WD and AWD vehicles REQUIRING, in most cases, to have all 4 tires replaced at the same time. I've had people come into work and argue that point thousands of times about "only needing the 2 worst replaced" or "just the 1 that blew out" and guess what, according to the US Gov't YOU CAN'T by law replace tires on these style vehicles in 1's or 2's unless the remaining tires are within 3/32 of tread difference. Ask any major Tire Center ( Goodyear, Mavis, Firestone, etc...) And for softer tires, like most H,V,W,Z rated ones found on lower profile rims, that 7,000 miles can be that much or more depending on the vehicle and driver. For example the transmissions on a Ford Explorer's can blow up with a difference of 2/32 between front and rear tires. The tolerance level for the driveshaft to be at odd angles is so minute that it creates more friction and warps the driveshaft first then locks up the center differential and then ususally at this point the person wrecks the vehicle. Also keep in mind that the lower the tread gets, the smaller the circumfrence of that perticular "circle" and they spin at different speeds. Might only be a fraction of noticability but it's still there, and on what could be a weakened trasmission or drivetrain component that could make the difference. Sorry to go on a rant but after 6 years in a tire installation center I really hate seeing people NOT understand all the dynamics involved and just go for what's cheaper at the moment. DON'T DRIVE THE CAR IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE PARTS!

 

[droppinbottom]

YES uneven treadwear can affect your drivetrain. That's the whole point of 4WD and AWD vehicles REQUIRING, in most cases, to have all 4 tires replaced at the same time. I've had people come into work and argue that point thousands of times about "only needing the 2 worst replaced" or "just the 1 that blew out" and guess what, according to the US Gov't YOU CAN'T by law replace tires on these style vehicles in 1's or 2's unless the remaining tires are within 3/32 of tread difference. Ask any major Tire Center ( Goodyear, Mavis, Firestone, etc...) And for softer tires, like most H,V,W,Z rated ones found on lower profile rims, that 7,000 miles can be that much or more depending on the vehicle and driver. For example the transmissions on a Ford Explorer's can blow up with a difference of 2/32 between front and rear tires. The tolerance level for the driveshaft to be at odd angles is so minute that it creates more friction and warps the driveshaft first then locks up the center differential and then ususally at this point the person wrecks the vehicle. Also keep in mind that the lower the tread gets, the smaller the circumfrence of that perticular "circle" and they spin at different speeds. Might only be a fraction of noticability but it's still there, and on what could be a weakened trasmission or drivetrain component that could make the difference. Sorry to go on a rant but after 6 years in a tire installation center I really hate seeing people NOT understand all the dynamics involved and just go for what's cheaper at the moment. DON'T DRIVE THE CAR IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE PARTS!

So from what you are saying that a vehicle can't go over a bump in the road because it will put the driveshaft at odd angles and will cause the transmission to blow? Man get your head out of some safety manual and step back into the real world. Man what some people believe.

Hmm come to think of it man have you ever seen a shop that sells used tires? If it was illegal and dangerous don't you think the Federal Highway Traffic Administration would crack down on places selling used tires?

 

[webconnect]

Discount Tire has a credit card which you can just charge all tires, 6months same as cash. Easy! I was 19 when I got my card, with over a grand of credit, so it can't be hard to get.

 

[97gsxturbo97]

I just bought 4 used tires for my gsx for $75. I just need to hold out for a few months until I can afford new tires. The two rear are the same and the two front I got are different. Thay have alot of tread left. I dont see why I wouldnt be able to drive like that for a few months. Rubber is rubber and its better than the bald tires with the belts showing that I have on there now.

 

[97GSTAUTO]

YES uneven treadwear can affect your drivetrain. That's the whole point of 4WD and AWD vehicles REQUIRING, in most cases, to have all 4 tires replaced at the same time. I've had people come into work and argue that point thousands of times about "only needing the 2 worst replaced" or "just the 1 that blew out" and guess what, according to the US Gov't YOU CAN'T by law replace tires on these style vehicles in 1's or 2's unless the remaining tires are within 3/32 of tread difference. Ask any major Tire Center ( Goodyear, Mavis, Firestone, etc...) And for softer tires, like most H,V,W,Z rated ones found on lower profile rims, that 7,000 miles can be that much or more depending on the vehicle and driver. For example the transmissions on a Ford Explorer's can blow up with a difference of 2/32 between front and rear tires. The tolerance level for the driveshaft to be at odd angles is so minute that it creates more friction and warps the driveshaft first then locks up the center differential and then ususally at this point the person wrecks the vehicle. Also keep in mind that the lower the tread gets, the smaller the circumfrence of that perticular "circle" and they spin at different speeds. Might only be a fraction of noticability but it's still there, and on what could be a weakened trasmission or drivetrain component that could make the difference. Sorry to go on a rant but after 6 years in a tire installation center I really hate seeing people NOT understand all the dynamics involved and just go for what's cheaper at the moment. DON'T DRIVE THE CAR IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE PARTS!

dont Ford Explorers blow up all by themselves? Like when you do around corners or make sharp turns

 

[HIGHPSI4]

YES uneven treadwear can affect your drivetrain. That's the whole point of 4WD and AWD vehicles REQUIRING, in most cases, to have all 4 tires replaced at the same time. I've had people come into work and argue that point thousands of times about "only needing the 2 worst replaced" or "just the 1 that blew out" and guess what, according to the US Gov't YOU CAN'T by law replace tires on these style vehicles in 1's or 2's unless the remaining tires are within 3/32 of tread difference. Ask any major Tire Center ( Goodyear, Mavis, Firestone, etc...) And for softer tires, like most H,V,W,Z rated ones found on lower profile rims, that 7,000 miles can be that much or more depending on the vehicle and driver. For example the transmissions on a Ford Explorer's can blow up with a difference of 2/32 between front and rear tires. The tolerance level for the driveshaft to be at odd angles is so minute that it creates more friction and warps the driveshaft first then locks up the center differential and then ususally at this point the person wrecks the vehicle. Also keep in mind that the lower the tread gets, the smaller the circumfrence of that perticular "circle" and they spin at different speeds. Might only be a fraction of noticability but it's still there, and on what could be a weakened trasmission or drivetrain component that could make the difference. Sorry to go on a rant but after 6 years in a tire installation center I really hate seeing people NOT understand all the dynamics involved and just go for what's cheaper at the moment. DON'T DRIVE THE CAR IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE PARTS!

Huh?

Sounds like a killer sells pitch to buy all new tires for those people who do not know better. I have ran different tires on my 1990 AWD for years. I just make sure all are close to the same height. If you like you can also put on a slick set and go auto cross or drag. I know Furds are crap but surely the transmissions are better than that.

I am with droppinbottom, just make sure they are the same height and drive it.

 

[MaxGdsm]

Ive heard replace all tires at the same time. Ive also heard people getting away without doing it. its up to you i guess, do you want to gamble harming your center diff etc. I tend to go with manufacturer reqs as i am no mechanical engineer that designed and built the setup. i guess in a pinch you could always disconnect your rear end and go front wheel drive

 

[DGajre777]

In theory, you are supposed to replace all tires at the same time on an AWD. I used different brand and uneven tread tires in the front and back for a year and 3 years later my car still runs without any issues. They were the same size though.

 

[Archametes]

I'm not selling anything at all. And as far as hitting a bump in the road, that's reading into my statement a little to the extreme. I'm simply trying to prove the point of be cautious if you plan on taking the cheap way out. It could be ALOT more expensive in the long run. I apologize for my rant of sorts but that is the simplest point I was trying to make.

As far as used tires are concerned, many places do sell them but I have yet to see one have any sort of warranty or cover any damages to your car resulting from a blow out on their used tires...? If you know of one please tell me. I guess most of this stems from just NOT wanting to see yet another car, DSM to be more specific, destroyed or "injured" due to someone taking the least expensive route. Especially with the only part that keeps you in control on the ground.

If your 2 worst tires are equal to 1/2 of the tread left on the best ones then run them, but make sure they are on the rear of the car. It's not the best way but it'll get you through. BUT from a safety stand point mix them from left to right. Make sure both newer ones are on the front. Any garage with tires should be able to measure the tread depth in 32's/in. to tell you how much they are.

You can argue that I'm too cautious and what not, maybe even "brainwashd by the man" but if I wouldn't do it to my car I'm not gonna suggest you do it to yours.

 

[housegsx]

Ask any major Tire Center ( Goodyear, Mavis, Firestone, etc...)

Those are last places I would ever, ever trust to have good advice about anything automotive.

I once blew out a tire, ordered a new one, and took it to Firestone to get mounted and balanced... They didn't even bother to pull the old weights off the wheels before balancing. They just added more.

I've once replaced all 4 tires on my car to make sure they all matched but it was because if I didn't two of them would have been almost completely bald and the others brand new. But a few thousand miles difference should not be enough to affect anything.

 

[Moparbishi]

If you tires are arnt within 2/32 I would recomend replacing all 4. I put two new on my front, because I had a blow out, and kept the rears at 5/32. 3 months later my center diff went out. Dont know if it was caused by it. So I bought two new rears just in case.

 

[Archametes]

Those are last places I would ever, ever trust to have good advice about anything automotive.

I once blew out a tire, ordered a new one, and took it to Firestone to get mounted and balanced... They didn't even bother to pull the old weights off the wheels before balancing. They just added more.

I've once replaced all 4 tires on my car to make sure they all matched but it was because if I didn't two of them would have been almost completely bald and the others brand new. But a few thousand miles difference should not be enough to affect anything.

I was just using the most commonly known major places... not to recommend those specifically. I wouldn't go to them either... then again I don't have to. I have a tire changing machine in my garage. Got it used from the mechanic down the street about 3 years ago when he went out of business.

 

[mitsumikey]

Wanted to bring this thread back from the dead as I cannot find much info on this. I recently damaged a sidewall on my 225/45 R17 continental conti extreem contact. That tire is no good, rear tires have about 60-70 % tread. I was just going to replace all 4 with Pirelli PZero Nero M&S, HankookVentus H405, or falken 912. Is this necessary? Now when you think about it front wears out faster than rear so dont the front get smaller anyways? How are the tires rotated? Should the fronts and rears be exchanged at certain intervals?

 

[JDR7919]

I have never had a problem using used tires. Find something close in wear and should be fine

 

[97GSTAUTO]

Wow this one is really back from the dead. Stick with the same type tire per axle. If you were going to get a used one for the rear just make sure that you get the same tire with about the same amount of tread on it.

 

[mitsumikey]

How about rotation? Do you guys swap front to back?

 

[viperlp01]

Ya i switch front to back.... Your supposed to take the tires off and switch in an 'x' for directional's....