91 Talon TSI

[ClayC]

This is the Build Thread for 91 Talon TSI. Reply below.

 

[Ludachris]

Waiting for more photos of this one

 

[ClayC]

Got this thing done a while back. Been on track now 3 times. There’s been something smallish wrong each time but finally I think it’s all worked out.
This is a 91 Talon TSI. Stripped and race prepped. Not a street car, just wanted to build a fun track car to do some endurance racing with. Haven’t entered it in an actual race yet but I’ve been shaking it out during track days at Road Atlanta and AMP In Dawsonville GA.
Only running 14psi of boost but it’s making right at 300 to the wheels and decent torque.
The Haltech stuff has been amazing, the Muellerized Ohlins coil over setup seems to be very nice on track. I’m not super experienced on road courses but I’ve driven a couple of other cars.

 

[Ludachris]

Got this thing done a while back. Been on track now 3 times. There’s been something smallish wrong each time but finally I think it’s all worked out.
This is a 91 Talon TSI. Stripped and race prepped. Not a street car, just wanted to build a fun track car to do some endurance racing with. Haven’t entered it in an actual race yet but I’ve been shaking it out during track days at Road Atlanta and AMP In Dawsonville GA.
Only running 14psi of boost but it’s making right at 300 to the wheels and decent torque.
The Haltech stuff has been amazing, the Muellerized Ohlins coil over setup seems to be very nice on track. I’m not super experienced on road courses but I’ve driven a couple of other cars.

So jealous of the Ohlins setup. That's what I had planned to do. Glad someone is doing that with a 1g. Just doing HPDE days would be so much fun with that setup. Time Trials/Time Attack is really tough to compete in with these cars due to the classing, but it would be fun to see what kind of lap times you're able to run.

 

[ClayC]

Haltech Elite 1500
DBW Bosch Throttle Body
Artec Manifold
Garrett G30-660 turbo
Small Surge tank
FMIC
Ceika Big brakes all 4 wheels
Muellerized Ohlins Coilovers
Haltech IC7 dash

So jealous of the Ohlins setup. That's what I had planned to do. Glad someone is doing that with a 1g. Just doing HPDE days would be so much fun with that setup. Time Trials/Time Attack is really tough to compete in with these cars due to the classing, but it would be fun to see what kind of lap times you're able to run.

I really need to play with the suspension a little to see what helps and what hurts…so busy chasing other gremlins when you 1st get a car on track, things like the dampening settings kinda get forgotten about. Because of the FMIC I had to cut the stock bumper and drill those huge holes in the front of the car to keep the temps down….its been things like that during a $500 Track day weekend that keep me busy. Or big brake kits heating up and expanding enough to rub the edge of the rotors against the inside of the caliper!

If anyone is considering the IC7 dash or a Haltech ECU I really can’t say enough good things about them. Combined with the DBW throttle body swap it’s been so easy to setup and control. It’s my second Haltech controlled car and all I can say is they just work.

 

[ClayC]

Is this the Capt Obvious from the ZCar forums? If it is you will be interested in my other project that is about to hit the road.

76 with an RB25. Full Techno Toy tuning suspension, big brakes, Moderate turbo GTx3071. Carbon Signal Body kit. Full custom exhaust

Not sure if it’s worth the cost….I didn’t ask what it would be, let’s just say I had EXTREME sticker shock

 

[LaserRS92]

Got this thing done a while back. Been on track now 3 times. There’s been something smallish wrong each time but finally I think it’s all worked out.
This is a 91 Talon TSI. Stripped and race prepped. Not a street car, just wanted to build a fun track car to do some endurance racing with. Haven’t entered it in an actual race yet but I’ve been shaking it out during track days at Road Atlanta and AMP In Dawsonville GA.
Only running 14psi of boost but it’s making right at 300 to the wheels and decent torque.
The Haltech stuff has been amazing, the Muellerized Ohlins coil over setup seems to be very nice on track. I’m not super experienced on road courses but I’ve driven a couple of other cars.

Where did you get the Ohlins setup from? Did you have someone you contacted directly? I was under the impression these weren't available anymore and had given up hope long ago.

 

[Ludachris]

Or big brake kits heating up and expanding enough to rub the edge of the rotors against the inside of the caliper!

You will have to do some brake ducting - I was eating up pads due to the heat. The rotor position makes it tricky to get brake hose all the way from the front bumper, but even some diverter plates that pull air up into the rotor would likely help.

Where did you get the Ohlins setup from? Did you have someone you contacted directly? I was under the impression these weren't available anymore and had given up hope long ago.

Did you reach out to Muellerized about it? They were the only shop making the kit available.

 

[ClayC]

Did you reach out to Muellerized about it? They were the only shop making the kit available.

Yes that’s where I got it from. All I had to do to fit it was drill 2 more holes in the front strut towers.

 

[Ludachris]

Yes that’s where I got it from. All I had to do to fit it was drill 2 more holes in the front strut towers.

Hey Clay, my comment was for @LaserRS92, who asked about the source for the coilovers. Hopefully Muellerized still makes the kits.

 

[Lonewolf17Q]

nice build looking to do the same thing with my car been collecting parts for years would like to know more about the brake especially the rears I run Willwood front 6 pot

 

[Ludachris]

nice build looking to do the same thing with my car been collecting parts for years would like to know more about the brake especially the rears I run Willwood front 6 pot

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[ClayC]

Brakes are Ceika, they are a French Company. Huge 4 piston calipers front and rear. They fit perfectly other than I had to shim the rears calipers off the mounting point to get them away from the rotor a little. Simple though, just a couple of washers. They have several options they offer, they let you customize what you want in terms of caliper size and pad type.

They are pretty big but they did just barely fit under some cheap 17x9 wheels I got from eBay. Had to run a 10mm spacer but no problems there.

I can take some pictures of them if you like.

 

[Ludachris]

Brakes are Ceika, they are a French Company. Huge 4 piston calipers front and rear. They fit perfectly other than I had to shim the rears calipers off the mounting point to get them away from the rotor a little. Simple though, just a couple of washers. They have several options they offer, they let you customize what you want in terms of caliper size and pad type.

They are pretty big but they did just barely fit under some cheap 17x9 wheels I got from eBay. Had to run a 10mm spacer but no problems there.

I can take some pictures of them if you like.

You probably should post some pics, as I don't think those brakes are very commonly used. Would be cool to show people what they look like.

 

[ClayC]

These are very similar to the Wildwood Big brakes on my other car.

Also you can order these brakes in a variety of different colors.

 

[Semipromotorsports]

These are very similar to the Wildwood Big brakes on my other car.

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Ill be ordering these for my 1ga within the next week. Just wondering did you upgrade your brake master cylinder for these?

 

[Miasma]

Also you can order these brakes in a variety of different colors.

Clay, are you running those Ceika brakes on all four corners? If so, I'm curious if you had to change anything with the brake booster or proportional valve to support larger brakes in the rear as well. I've been looking at these for my build as well. TIA.

 

[Ludachris]

Clay, are you running those Ceika brakes on all four corners? If so, I'm curious if you had to change anything with the brake booster or proportional valve to support larger brakes in the rear as well. I've been looking at these for my build as well. TIA.

Yeah, if you go big in the rear you'd probably have to get an adjustable proportioning valve to be able to adjust the front/rear bias. I remember talking with TCE about it many years ago, which led me to stay with the stock brake setup in the rear and used more aggressive pads to keep the balance with the big front brakes, since the rears do very little work.

 

[Miasma]

Yeah, if you go big in the rear you'd probably have to get an adjustable proportioning valve to be able to adjust the front/rear bias. I remember talking with TCE about it many years ago, which led me to stay with the stock brake setup in the rear and used more aggressive pads to keep the balance with the big front brakes, since the rears do very little work.

That's my understanding as well, and the proportioning valve wouldn't be easy to modulate without a lot of added work.