4G63 Motor Debate

[dsmotors09]

Alright, this is a debate I am having with my cousin. We all know how the 4G63 was classified as the fastest 4 cylinder with Brent Rau's 0-200 1/4 at 6.86, and John Shepherd etc. Well he is saying that without the turbo, the 4G63, would basically be worthless. Because with the turbo, it would be in the N/A class. So, is the 4G63 worthless, without a turbo?

 

[empie1]

Hay i take my car to the shop all the time....................to barow tools and get advice. I dont see the point in bringin my car to any one to work on it, and im not a mechanic im a carpenter. I mean searuslly i dnot really know a hole lot about cars but for instence i spun my rod breaing s im my grand am and now im to my keens in the crank but ill fix versus pay some guy 60 bucks an hour to work on it

I was refering to the fact that if you pay some one to work on your car, your spending 125 percent more to get the same result in the end.Meaning the local kid with the 11 sec hatch only invested 5k, but had he not had his knowledge and abilities, he would have spent 10k.

 

[6 bolt dreams]

Ya i know i was just pokin fun at the stituation and im a firm beleiver in doning things myself its the only way to learn any thing so i guess im old school about things like that i was raised on common sence not book smarts but whem i pu my mind to it i can fix anything, or atleast thats what i tell myself all the time thats how i needed up with 2 dsm both had bad heads and now my 93 runs. The 90 is a different story cause the head shop has the head, that was be for i decided i could do it myself and to top it off they want 120 to get the head back all ripped apart and stuff. So now im stuck on that all i want back is the cams but they still want there money

 

[webconnect]

I've ran my gsx without a turbo. (Just messing around one day) and it runs like crap. Barely got it over 35mph . No Joke.

 

[DSM_6SL2 Power]

Eaither your a moron or your a 17 year old or both. Either way your spewing incorrect, stupid opinons.On top of that, its funny that you go out of your way to mispell honda.....choad...Anyway, heres a little fact for you...your NOT putting 30psi or 500hp on your stock block (for very long anyway).You dont have a invincible engine.Guess what? 90% of the people with 10 or 11 second dsms have completly rebuilt engines.No one goes with their 96 tsi and runs 11's for a extended period of time (at least not many).
I could give a f*ck if you believe me or not about the 5k.The engine cost 1300 bucksHe ran a 11.7 (I witnessed it).I know for a fact he isnt anywhere close to 10k..Get off your dsm cloud...there are plenty of faster cars out there. I love dsms and will alqays have one, I have been in the scene for the past 9 years of my life, but I respect all cars, when built properly and efficiently.


Oh...and I drive a talon, not a honda. Get your facts right.

No need to call names buddy...oh I mean moron....oops I mean choad.


So im not putting 30psi on my stock block for long(of course im not)? Then how long is the honduh(correctly spelled) running 11.7's? Oh and im not just running my 96tsi, it is actually completely rebuilt. So if I were to do it which I dont plan on, I could.

Im on no dsm cloud either, I realize there are faster cars out there. Im not dumb enough to believe my 4500 dollar car is going to beat everything in the world. Im not like most 4banger guys out there, and hate v8's just because its a v8. I actually have respect for them, and like them.

As for the honduh thing, I really doubt most guys are going to be even running 12's under 7-10k. As for the guy you know, so what.... Your not even sure how much money he put in so dont go there.

Don't act like you know who I am or what I know. That bothers me, I have an opinion just like you, and I think swapping out an engine to make your car faster is the dumbest thing in the world. If you want to make power, use what you got and make it fast, or buy another car.

 

[DSM_6SL2 Power]

I agree...I dont like most of them either.But I have more respect for a honda guy that completly changes there whole engine and makes it boost friendly and runs 11s in a fwd than I do a averge dsmer that drops a 18g in their awd and thinks they are the sh1t.It just comes down to respecting a fellow car enthusiest.For me anyway.People that are ricers are just as annoying and immature as people that are like "duuuuhhhh hawndus are stoopid cause thay dont have turbos from the factory.My dsm is the bestes car ever.I can run 600whp on my 140000 mile short block!I hate hawndus duuhhhh"

It's funny how you called someone else intelligent, as in referring you are also intelligent, when really all you can come up with is poking fun, calling names, and making up stuff.

 

[LandoAWD]

Cut the shit, kids.

Want to leave newbie status? Don't post like you just discovered the Internet.

This is your only warning.