1G coilovers setup

[motox-010]

I will be ordering some Megan coilovers soon, and my question is, do I need to order a camber kit? I won't be going any lower than 1" when I'm driving. May drop it in the weeds for pictures.

 

[AndrewD5418]

I will be ordering some Megan coilovers soon, and my question is, do I need to order a camber kit? I won't be going any lower than 1" when I'm driving. May drop it in the weeds for pictures.

I would suggest looking into ksports instead. I'm not sure if megan's are adjustable from the body like ksports but that is a huge plus.

And no, if it comes with adjustments on the top you wont need a camber kit.

 

[motox-010]

What do you mean adjustable from the body?
The dampner adjustment is a knob at the top.
And the height adjustment is locking rings.

 

[turbo90gsx]

The k-sports come with front camber plates. You can still adjust the factory rear camber, but only to an extent. Search for 1g rear camber and you'll find out what happens if you want to "slam" the 1g's.

I have the K-sports, but not for ride height. The really nice part about the k-sports are that the height adjust from the lower portion on the strut/shock. They don't change the travel of the actual absorber at all. On the softest settings these this perform very well.

I think the Megans are the same way though, so either way you will have real nice shocks/springs.

 

[AndrewD5418]

What do you mean adjustable from the body?
The dampner adjustment is a knob at the top.
And the height adjustment is locking rings.

Adjustable like this..

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[motox-010]

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By camber plates do you mean the sliders at the top on the front ones?
If so, yes, they have them.
And it appears that they adjust at the bottom of the spring.
And the Megans are really nice because I don't want to drop a grand on suspension.
Everything I read so far about the Megan 1G coilovers is good.

The DME rear camber kit on Extreme says that it is only needed if dropping more than 1.5"
I won't be driving the car for extend time lower then 1.5"
If at all it will be drivin at around 1" lower than stock.

 

[underradar92]

If the length of the Megans is near the same as Ksports, even at the highest possible settings your car will likely be more than 1" lower than stock. They are really short.

The wheels are at about stock height when the car is completely off the ground.

 

[oztofrdm]

3sx makes a really nice rear camber kit that will work on our cars

 

[Slippi84]

KSsport's are extremely stiff too. I hadn't seen a set in action in person till carver came to the meet last weekend and I saw him push down on the car in the front with a soft setting on and that thing had like 0 rebound.

 

[underradar92]

KSsport's are extremely stiff too. I hadn't seen a set in action in person till carver came to the meet last weekend and I saw him push down on the car in the front with a soft setting on and that thing had like 0 rebound.

I can't relate to how stiff regular Ksports are, mine are way stiffer yet.

So, to answer the camber question, Moto, I believe you will be needing a rear camber kit of some sort. The one mentioned, made by 3sx looks nice to me, FWIW.

 

[turbo90gsx]

They are quite stiff. You can order them with custom springs though which would help a lot.

 

[motox-010]

I can't find this 3SX rear camber kit.

 

[underradar92]

these thingies: 3SX Adjustable Control Arms - AWD Twin Turbo Camber#-#Mitsubishi 3000GT#/#Dodge Stealth

turbo90gsx, spring rate tends to not be the real problem, overzealous compression damping is.

 

[motox-010]

I ordered the Megans and DME rear camber kit last night.

 

[talontsi18]

Megans are very stiff, they run a 12kg springs in front and then 10kg springs in the rear. I have the Megans and want to get them revalved and run softer springs because it sucks driving on everyday roads. I'm not sure what springs are run on the K sports but I thing the springs are softer than the Megans.

 

[xloki77x]

I'm not sure if megan's are adjustable from the body like ksports but that is a huge plus.

I have the K-sports, but not for ride height. The really nice part about the k-sports are that the height adjust from the lower portion on the strut/shock. They don't change the travel of the actual absorber at all.

Just an FYI, adjusting from the body has nothing to do with changing spring preloads or making the ride better. I saw this on www.timattackforums.com . This is coming from Bryan @ JRZ Suspensions, a very well known suspension tuning/manufacturing company in the time attack/road race community:

Making body adjustable dampers is a cost effective way to make a one size fits all shock. Its easy to make tons of threaded bodies and a couple application specific mounts instead of integrating the whole package. The threaded assembly isn't structurally efficient, especially in a strut application. In many cases its downright unsafe.

If the suspension package is sized correctly, height adjustments do not affect preload. If you have preload in the system the stroke or the spring is too short. Adjusting height on the body is a marketing ploy to prop up profit margin. Anyone who tells you different is trying to sell megan coilovers.

In short, proper damper manufacturers don't do it and those are the reasons why. Every set we make is done to order so that the customer has the right stuff. There are very few exceptions, mostly in the formula car world where preload is used as a tuning tool and the length can be adjusted for static ride height.

Springs don't have linear rates. We can use preload to hold the car at a certain height for a given amount of load and to change the position at which the spring rate curve acts on the car. Preload from other sources (damper gas pressure) can hold the car up while keeping the spring in a softer range. There are myriad combinations so find the right force/travel curve for the package one is working with.

Helpers are nice because they keep the spring in place at extended droop and the wheels move nicely up and down. That way droop doesn't need to be limited at the shock. This is especially true with stiff cars that don't use much travel. Very stiff helpers are much more noticeable as they come in and out more often during vehicle movement than the soft ones. Stiff helpers also have a bit more squish at full collapse yielding a softer overall package. That can be desirable or not.

Pete