Turbo for 2.3L

[Race94]

what would be best for a street car weekend track car?

I plan to do the stroker kit but my car is daily driven and raced only once or twice weekly on the street and one monthly on the track.

I was thinking a bolt-on t3/t4 but don't know what trim, size etc.

 

[nanokpsi]

That is because most of the 20g's being sold by the new school shops (AKA not BR) are Td06 turbine AND Td06 compressor.

The Buschur Racing 20g is a Tdo5 turbine/ Td06 Hybrid that is meant to spool as quick as possible. This was the remedy for a high-HP making, quick spooling street turbo before GT's were readily available.

Ask anyone at BR what the tdo5/td06 20g spools at, and they will tell you it will make 25psi at a hair over 3000rpm.

Stop spreading misimformation like this.....it is absolutley false. You mean to tell me A larger (heavier) compressor wheel and a MASSIVELY clipped tdo5 turbine wheel (like 20+ deg) will make it spool faster than a 16g? thanks for playing...kthanksbye

 

[kpt4321]

Stop spreading misimformation like this.....it is absolutley false. You mean to tell me A larger (heavier) compressor wheel and a MASSIVELY clipped tdo5 turbine wheel (like 20+ deg) will make it spool faster than a 16g? thanks for playing...kthanksbye

A TDO5H 20g will reach full boost (or over 20 psi) by like 3400 rpm, which isn't much slower than a 16g.

 

[kpt4321]

So for a low boost 300-320hp setup a evo3 on a 2.3 os bad? I know its "choking" the engine, but any turbo will choke the engine. If my goal is for like 18-20psi and 300-320 hp on race gas I dont think I will have too much trouble being as though Im going for autoX/roadracing so I need a super torquey setup with VERY fast spool(faster then Im spooling now). I mean wouldnt this be a good eqaution for loads of torque? I mean I not going to try and push 400+hp
Andrew

If you really only want to make 300-320 horsepower on race gas, use an EvoIII 16g. However, that's a really low power goal, and a small turbo for that engine. Hell, you can make 300 whp on race gas with a 14b...

I think something like a TDO6H 20g, on one of the million 50 trim turbos (Green, L2R, etc) would be a good choice. 16g-like spool, but solid power.

It's really up to you.

 

[nanokpsi]

A TDO5H 20g will reach full boost (or over 20 psi) by like 3400 rpm, which isn't much slower than a 16g.

INstead of believing what a vendor puts on his web site, I go by what i have seen in real life.

 

[entropy138]

INstead of believing what a vendor puts on his web site, I go by what i have seen in real life.

I've been in a BR 20g equiped car that hit 20 psi right about 3400.

 

[Mindslayer]

I went with a SCM60 with my 2.3L. And it should spin 23 psi at 3200-3400 rpm. And trying to tune it on 93 pump gas.

 

[DSMeclipse4G63]

If you really only want to make 300-320 horsepower on race gas, use an EvoIII 16g. However, that's a really low power goal, and a small turbo for that engine. Hell, you can make 300 whp on race gas with a 14b...

I think something like a TDO6H 20g, on one of the million 50 trim turbos (Green, L2R, etc) would be a good choice. 16g-like spool, but solid power.

It's really up to you.

well I spool 15psi at around 2800 or so I would think 18-20 psi would be around3k or slower, so I figure a 2.3 will spoll 18-20psi at about the same I do 15psi now. I also love my tdo5 b16g, so with the more effiecnt evo3 Ill be even better off. Now mind you Im not going to be doing this just to say I have a 2.3, but when I autoX my 2.0 isnt going to last forever. So when it comes time to upgrade thats most likely going to be my choice.
Andrew

 

[kpt4321]

INstead of believing what a vendor puts on his web site, I go by what i have seen in real life.

Me too. Don't assume I got that from some website, when I didn't.

 

[kpt4321]

well I spool 15psi at around 2800 or so I would think 18-20 psi would be around3k or slower, so I figure a 2.3 will spoll 18-20psi at about the same I do 15psi now. I also love my tdo5 b16g, so with the more effiecnt evo3 Ill be even better off. Now mind you Im not going to be doing this just to say I have a 2.3, but when I autoX my 2.0 isnt going to last forever. So when it comes time to upgrade thats most likely going to be my choice.
Andrew

Right now, it should not take very long to go from 15 to 18 psi. I'd expect you would see 18 psi more like 2500 rpm with the stroker.

 

[ITSME4G63]

FP3065 , a evo3 should spool up fast as ####, my small16g will hit full boost like at what 3000, then on your engine a 16g should spool like what?? 2000! well 2300-2500! thats crazy

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

get the gt35r just because its a sick turbo, and if you wanna stay bolt on get the 3065.

i have a few friends running the 35r and one is seeing full 25psi of boost at right around 3800k. and another is seeing 20 by 4000k but he is flowing 60 lbs min at this rpm so this turbo works great.

 

[sunflashx]

get the gt35r just because its a sick turbo, and if you wanna stay bolt on get the 3065.

i have a few friends running the 35r and one is seeing full 25psi of boost at right around 3800k. and another is seeing 20 by 4000k but he is flowing 60 lbs min at this rpm so this turbo works great.

Or if you want a bolt on 35r get a FP3565.

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

Or if you want a bolt on 35r get a FP3565.

ya thats pretty much what i just said . only thing diffrent realy is the custom turbin housing.

 

[gritsak]

just to add..

my 2.3 with 8.5:1 compression, stock head, stock cams, stock intake mani

t3/60-1 with a .63 a/r

full boost at 3800

 

[kpt4321]

i have a few friends running the 35r and one is seeing full 25psi of boost at right around 3800k. and another is seeing 20 by 4000k but he is flowing 60 lbs min at this rpm so this turbo works great.

You need to specify if you are talking about cars with 2.0 or 2.3 liter motors.

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

You need to specify if you are talking about cars with 2.0 or 2.3 liter motors.

o ya sorry, the 4100 is stock 7 bolt and the 3800 is a built 6 bolt with 9:1 compression. all 2.0 so with a 2.3 i would say it will make it a hell of alot better.

the 2.3 with the gt35r will be going in my car shortly.

 

[11sec_GSX]

I'm also thinking of the going the 2.3L stroker route. I know I would need a 4G64 crank, but what rods and pistons would I use and how does this setup work out in a 2g 7-bolt motor as far as crankwalk? Thanks in advance for everyones time.

 

[Lunch_Box]

The rods are the same as you would use in a 4G63 engine and the pistons are special stroker pistons. Wiseco and Ross both make them.

 

[herostar]

The rods are the same as you would use in a 4G63 engine and the pistons are special stroker pistons. Wiseco and Ross both make them.

and JE

 

[11sec_GSX]

Do you think it would be worth it to try the 2.3L stroker in a 2g 7-bolt motor or am I just asking for more trouble? Has anyone here tried this or know of anyone who has tried this combination and how is it working out?

 

[kpt4321]

o ya sorry, the 4100 is stock 7 bolt and the 3800 is a built 6 bolt with 9:1 compression. all 2.0 so with a 2.3 i would say it will make it a hell of alot better.

Where did these guys buy their turbos, and what turbine housing did they get?

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

the turbo is from ams, its there custom gt35r that they sell. this turbo has made over 600hp, and is putting down over 550 on a few other cars. its a custom to4s housing

 

[darklord97929]

How do you think this turbo would spool up on a 2.4 setup? I have a big 16g now on my 2.0 will the new turbo spool like the 16g or close to it?

Victory Performance 60 trim

Or Should I go with this one

Victory Performance 56 trim

Thanks

 

[herostar]

just to add..

my 2.3 with 8.5:1 compression, stock head, stock cams, stock intake mani

t3/60-1 with a .63 a/r

full boost at 3800

That's what I ordered last week... We'll see how it works in a couple of weeks here... What psi are you running and what size injectors?