SUPER AFC II--can u vent

[awdEAGLEtsi]

baltimore...i think you kept missing that it runs LEAN at idle not rich and also that it doesn't increase the probability it would run lean...it actually increases the probability the car will run rich cause the O2 sensor makes the car run rich when it has issues...its a safety thing. and remember that only after the O2 sensor is f'ed up in the first place...which is won't be cause it only runs rich during shifts.

ok on to other things...i was very impressed with how mature everyone was on the forum and how it was just about the info, but this post has sunken pretty low...lets try to get it back up to the high standard of quality this site usually has.

Lastly i do not know a lot about BOV's and such but, i do know that a lot of people like HKS make BOV's that work opposite and don't leak at all. also it seems like with all the right tuning and parts, a BOV would be a good way to release the back pressure and such. but like i said i don't know that much...just my 2 cents.

 

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by awdEAGLEtsi

ok on to other things...i was very impressed with how mature everyone was on the forum and how it was just about the info, but this post has sunken pretty low...lets try to get it back up to the high standard of quality this site usually has.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

you're joking right?

 

[kpt4321]

Originally posted by TurboMeTroy
I find it a bit odd, that people run in the 10s, and even 9s when vented to atmosphere...those guys must be pissed it idles rough, huh?
I think that it's just cheaper to pick up a 1g bov....

That's because they aren't using the stock MAF anymore. They have switched to speed-density systems in the vast majority of cases, which are no longer effected by venting the BOV.

Good try though.

 

[TSi92]

Oh boy... I can't believe the ammount of misinformation on this thread!!

Good thing that the guy got put on his place! One thing i hate is when someone posts bad technical advide, then gets corrected then he still don't wanna admit he was wrong. ok my 2 cents: If you wanna vent with stock mas then get a HKS SS BOV, one of my friends with a 2g has it with stock mas and s-afc and I don't see any driveability issues with his vented HKS. Driving behind him you can clearly see the puff of black smoke in between shifts but the car idles fine (the SS doesn't open with vacuum unlike other BOV's). Sure the sound is cool but, vented BOV's with stock MAS is the riceboy thing to do.

 

[Talon4ever]

I recently crushed my bov and wanted to see how the car would run vented. All I have to say is WOW It made a huge differnece. The car ran perfectly smooth and idles perfectly at 950. I raised the boost to 15psi and it loves the extra fuel. It definitely pulls harder on the top-end, but this is just my experience. I don't tend to run like this for long as I am planning on using the blow-through MAF set-up.

 

[TurboMeTroy]

Originally posted by kpt4321
That's because they aren't using the stock MAF anymore. They have switched to speed-density systems in the vast majority of cases, which are no longer effected by venting the BOV.

Good try though.

:thumbdown

I wouldn't say the "vast majority", that would be generalizing.
Maybe you should switch to speed-density setup.

This is dumb to argue who's "right" and who's not.

It seems that kpt designed every bov ever made, including the stock 1g bov and knows the exact mods that every dsm in the world has, and how each car performs w/ that specific bov. He KNOWS.

You know... every person on this forum seems to "build engines for a living" or "bead blast heads all day long" and "have their own machine shop right next to their 7 second talon (w/ a 1g bov)."

Yeah, me too. I do all that sh!t.

I forgot the guy's name, but don't you live in Hawaii? They sell DSMs in Hawaii? I thought you guys just rode around on scooters all day.

kgt--I wish you lived a little closer so we could line 'em up.
P.S. Anyone want a 1g bov? I'll give it to anyone w/ a non-1g-bov, that beats kgt. hahahahaha....no seriously.

 

[awdEAGLEtsi]

thats funny TurboMeTroy, i will take it....but i won't be able to beat kpt. and yeah that HKS SS was the one i was talking about...it doesn't leak it works backwards...like he said.

and i do think this forum is maturish...go to some others for any other cars and you will be in tears. i went to a gtp forum and got 150 posts in under 2 weeks just by saying the same type thing to whatever they said, which was gtps are slow and just bad cars to race, and such. its a good time. so really this site is soooooo much better than all the others...and there is actually info that is easy to get too, and most people don't argue about pointless crap....even though i think i might be right now.

 

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

Originally posted by TurboMeTroy
:thumbdown

I wouldn't say the "vast majority", that would be generalizing.
Maybe you should switch to speed-density setup.

This is dumb to argue who's "right" and who's not.

It seems that kpt designed every bov ever made, including the stock 1g bov and knows the exact mods that every dsm in the world has, and how each car performs w/ that specific bov. He KNOWS.

You know... every person on this forum seems to "build engines for a living" or "bead blast heads all day long" and "have their own machine shop right next to their 7 second talon (w/ a 1g bov)."

Yeah, me too. I do all that sh!t.

I forgot the guy's name, but don't you live in Hawaii? They sell DSMs in Hawaii? I thought you guys just rode around on scooters all day.

kgt--I wish you lived a little closer so we could line 'em up.
P.S. Anyone want a 1g bov? I'll give it to anyone w/ a non-1g-bov, that beats kgt. hahahahaha....no seriously.

hahahaha you are the man

 

[TSi92]

Originally posted by Talon4ever
I recently crushed my bov and wanted to see how the car would run vented. All I have to say is WOW It made a huge differnece. The car ran perfectly smooth and idles perfectly at 950. I raised the boost to 15psi and it loves the extra fuel. It definitely pulls harder on the top-end, but this is just my experience. I don't tend to run like this for long as I am planning on using the blow-through MAF set-up.

It has been proven that the butt-dyno is always wrong!!

 

[TSi92]

I forgot the guy's name, but don't you live in Hawaii? They sell DSMs in Hawaii? I thought you guys just rode around on scooters all day.

go to www.dsmhawaii.com and ask that same question hehehe.

We live in huts and the reason why we have DSM's is because is because the military brought them from the mainland...

 

[TSi92]

I forgot the guy's name, but don't you live in Hawaii? They sell DSMs in Hawaii? I thought you guys just rode around on scooters all day.

go to www.dsmhawaii.com and ask that same question hehehe.

We live in huts and the reason why we have DSM's is because is because the military brought them from the mainland...

 

[Tallen]

Originally posted by Talon4ever
I recently crushed my bov and wanted to see how the car would run vented. All I have to say is WOW It made a huge differnece. The car ran perfectly smooth and idles perfectly at 950. I raised the boost to 15psi and it loves the extra fuel. It definitely pulls harder on the top-end, but this is just my experience. I don't tend to run like this for long as I am planning on using the blow-through MAF set-up.

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Its running good because you fixed the BOV from leaking, not because your venting. Save yourself a headache and just don't vent unless you have a MAFT, VPC, or standalone.

 

[d-loc_420]

The only time a car will ahve bad idel is if its a leaky stock BOV. Otherwise it'll jsut be rich between shifts and hurt performance a tad as a side effect.




WRONG im a newbie and know this is wrong cuz my blow off valve recirculates if i pull the hose of at idle the car will almost cut off

 

[nine5raptor]

Did you plug the hole in the intake when you did this or did you leave it sucking in all that unmetered air through the recirc. hole?