Redstuff in the Rear and Greenstuff the Front...

[95CarbonEclipse]

Okay, so i've been reading up on braking and suspension a lot over the past few days because I'm currently working on my GSX's brakes, but I want to maximize my time spent under the fenders. I'm on a limited budget so most everything will be OEM components.

The car already came with cross-drilled and slotted OEM replacement rotors (vented in the front, non-vented in the rear). I've already ordered a set of SS Brake lines along with replacing all the boots and seals on the front dual piston calipers. I'll definitly be adding a set of EBC greenstuff pads in the front, but...

...would there be any benefit in replacing the OEM style pads in the rear with something grippier in the rear, like EBC redstuff (Red in the back and Green in the front)?? I've read a bit about how our cars are already heavy in rear brake bias and a little bit about how having too much braking power in the rear can actually hurt stopping performance.

Would this setup be better then stock pads in the rear, worse, or not a noticable difference to spend the money? Jtoby... I'm calling on you for an answer.

 

[underradar92]

I'm no Jtoby, but...

Reds are a more race oriented pad (higher operating temp) and since the rear brakes don't normally get hotter than the fronts, I'd say to use greens all around.

Or reds in front, as they are a perfectly streetable pad, but really greens work very well on all four corners.

Any reason why your thinking was to use reds out back?

 

[RusherRacing]

because the red stuff and the green stuff work at different operation condtions it could be very dangerous. When the brakes are cool the greens stuff will grip more than the red stuff and when hot visversa.

The problem with this is you don't want rear bias brakes. Because if the rears lock before the front it will cause the rear end to come around which is very dangerous. Engineers design the brakes so the front always lock up first. Its kind of like the engineers always design the cars to be understeer instead of oversteer.

Will you be autocrossing or going to track days? If so it might be better going with the red stuff's all the way around. If your mainly driving on the street green stuff's would be good. Hawk HPS pads might be even a better choice than the EBC's.

 

[jtmcinder]

+1

The opposite would be fine, especially on a lowered car, as the mu for Greens is a little higher than Reds, but your suggested setup would move the bias forward and really cause grief. I'd run the stocks in the rear before Reds. In fact, the easiest way to balance a lowered DSM for autocrossing is Greens or R4Ss in the front and MetalMasters in the rear.

- Jtoby

 

[olmytsi]

So greens in the front and stockers/regular autozone replacement in the rear is a good combo?

 

[2gAWDTalon]

Redstuff in the Rear and Greenstuff the Front...

oh no, that dosent sound good...

 

[jtmcinder]

So greens in the front and stockers/regular autozone replacement in the rear is a good combo?

Better than Reds in the rear, but I'd get MetalMasters, instead.

- Jtoby


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[95CarbonEclipse]

Thanks for the info. I was leaning towards doing what most everyone does (green in the front/OEM in the rear), but in all my searching I thought "what if..."

I'm glad it was only a thought.