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jb95gst

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Nov 12, 2002
Scottsdale, Arizona
I have a 95 GSX and am getting ready to pull the engine because of a spun rod bearing. My question is just, can anyone give me some advice on doing this? Also how hard is it to pull the crank out to have it resurfaced. My experience is limited, however I am not exactly illiterate with my car. Also, What would be some other things that should be replaced while the engine apart.
I know alot of people say I should put a six bolt in right now, but I don't have the money to do that and need to get my car back. However I am going to start building a six bolt to swap in later, and think that this will be a great experience for me.
Thanks for any words of wisdom, JB
 
jb95gst said:
I have a 95 GSX and am getting ready to pull the engine because of a spun rod bearing. My question is just, can anyone give me some advice on doing this? Also how hard is it to pull the crank out to have it resurfaced. My experience is limited, however I am not exactly illiterate with my car. Also, What would be some other things that should be replaced while the engine apart.
I know alot of people say I should put a six bolt in right now, but I don't have the money to do that and need to get my car back. However I am going to start building a six bolt to swap in later, and think that this will be a great experience for me.
Thanks for any words of wisdom, JB


Weird I just did this on Saturday. There are a few things that will make life really easy. Iwould go get a box of ziplock bags, some masking tape, and a sharpie. You can toss the bolts in a bag and label them so you kow what they go to. All the plugs will only go into there specific part but it is a good reminder, so I put a piece of tape on them and label it also.

I have found it easier to pull the motor and tranny together. Some may say otherwise and I will let them chime in and give you there reasons. For me its easier becasue you will need at least 5 inches to get the imput shaft out of the crank. If you look at the driverside fender you will see that there really isnt that much space.


As far as the maching goes, they will check the crank and you should have the rods looked at and resized. I would just put all new bearing in the bottom end so you have piece of mind.

Other than that justtake you time and doubel check everything and it should go smoothly.

Michael
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i'd say that if u never pulled an engine, get it done in a shop or with somebody that knows how, get them to help. its an involved process. taking engines apart is not that simple. ur best bet is to get a shop that specializes in that sort of thing to look at it. im not telling u not to do it and im not telling you to do it. im sayin, dont do it alone. even if u are trying to figure it out, do that with somebody else. a second set of hands is crucial in that kinda thing. also, do u have equipment for this sort of job? its just just a set of pliers and a screwdriver with a flashlight on it. tools are important. if u decided to do that, get a manual for the car. if u dont have it, i have one in PDF for a 2G. i may be able to send it to you if u want to. hope this helps you out, good luck
 
Thank you for the advice, I have already started to remove a few hoses, and vacum line, and have started the tape and label thing. Am I going to have to replace the head gasket, if so, should it be an after market or oem. Thanks again, also, boostedinaz the reason I need to get this done so fast is that I may be moving to az, not sure where yet, either mesa or scotsdale.
VOTBLINDUB, I have a few friends that know alot, not dsm's exactly, but he has built his typhoon. Also there are some members from carolina dsm that may offer their help to me. I have a chilton manual, and the shop manual on cd. If the manual you have in pdf is a different one I will gladly accept it, can't have too many resources.
Thanks again
Later, JB
 
jb95gst said:
Thank you for the advice, I have already started to remove a few hoses, and vacum line, and have started the tape and label thing. Am I going to have to replace the head gasket, if so, should it be an after market or oem. Thanks again, also, boostedinaz the reason I need to get this done so fast is that I may be moving to az, not sure where yet, either mesa or scotsdale.
VOTBLINDUB, I have a few friends that know alot, not dsm's exactly, but he has built his typhoon. Also there are some members from carolina dsm that may offer their help to me. I have a chilton manual, and the shop manual on cd. If the manual you have in pdf is a different one I will gladly accept it, can't have too many resources.
Thanks again
Later, JB

I would just get an OEM head gasket. They handle alot of boost and you know it will work perfect. If you end up moving to AZ shoot me a PM and we can get together. I hope you AC works.

Michael
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I have one more question, it happens to about the AC. The chiltan manual says something about not removing it, then says to remove it, or something like that(can't remember off the top of my head and the manual is in the garage) What is the easiest way to pull the engin w/o breaking the ac line so I don't have to recharge it, or will I have to no matter what.
Thanks, JB
 
jb95gst said:
I have one more question, it happens to about the AC. The chiltan manual says something about not removing it, then says to remove it, or something like that(can't remember off the top of my head and the manual is in the garage) What is the easiest way to pull the engin w/o breaking the ac line so I don't have to recharge it, or will I have to no matter what.
Thanks, JB

There are four bolts that hold compressor to a bracket. Take those four bolts out, one may not come out but it will come loose, and you can leave the compressor in the car.

Michael

:talon: :laser:
 
boostedinaz said:
I have found it easier to pull the motor and tranny together. Some may say otherwise and I will let them chime in and give you there reasons. For me its easier becasue you will need at least 5 inches to get the imput shaft out of the crank. If you look at the driverside fender you will see that there really isnt that much space.
What is the easiest way to pull the engine with the tranny, thats what I want to do. I have all the mounts removed and the engine/tranny is suspended from the hoist. Now how is the best way to actually get it out. Do I need to take off the Radiator and fans??? Well I am off to work and would like some hints to read about when I return and try working on this some more.
Thanks alot,
JB
 
<--- the car boostedinaz was pulling the engine out of :thumb:

Pull the balance shafts while you have the engine out. One less thing to worry about and actually really easy once the thing is out. As for the radiator and fans...yes pull them pull anything that you anticipate being in the way or worry about possibly damaging.

Oh and yes do come to AZ, we need more DSMers out here!
 
I spun a rod bearing in my 95 gsx about 2 months ago... I was in the same boat as you... I ended up building a stroker though because I wanted a new crank... It's not too hard, just takes alot of time.
 
jb95gst said:
What is the easiest way to pull the engine with the tranny, thats what I want to do. I have all the mounts removed and the engine/tranny is suspended from the hoist. Now how is the best way to actually get it out. Do I need to take off the Radiator and fans??? Well I am off to work and would like some hints to read about when I return and try working on this some more.
Thanks alot,
JB
Take the whole radiator out with the fans still attached... easiest way. The easiest way to get the engine out is drop it through the bottom. if you cant' get your car up high enough to clear it though, you're gunna have to take your hood off and pull it out through the top. I'd suggest letting the tranny side of the assembly fall lower so it's tilted... much easier to get out than taking it out level.
 
We pulled it through the top without any problems and that's exactly how we did it. Oh and other obvious stuff that I managed to forget that you will likely want to replace...

- waterpump
- timing belt, tensioner etc
- possibly front cover etc while you're tearing things apart
- any and all gaskets

Think of it this way...when are you going to get a better chance to replace these things. I suppose it all comes down to how much $$$ you have to spend and how many miles are on the current parts. Do it right...do it once.
 
Thanks You for all the advice, I will pull the whole radiator out today. Yeah there is no way to get the engine out from the bottom in my garage. I plan on getting the engine overhaul kit that has all the gaskets, but I just replaced the timing belt in feb. and the bearing spun in may so there are only a few thousand miles on the belt. Thanks for the advice, and I'll get in touch with you az guys if I come out there.
Thanks, JB
 
herostar said:
I'd suggest letting the tranny side of the assembly fall lower so it's tilted... much easier to get out than taking it out level.

Thanks for that advice, I could not get it out with it level, then I read this post and remounted the engine and adjusted the chains, and it came out in like 2 minutes. Thanks alot guys. Now comes the fun part of tearing the engine down.
Thanks, JB
 
jb95gst said:
Thanks for that advice, I could not get it out with it level, then I read this post and remounted the engine and adjusted the chains, and it came out in like 2 minutes. Thanks alot guys. Now comes the fun part of tearing the engine down.
Thanks, JB

Yeah, it's practically impossible to get it out without tilting the transmission, because it sits in its own little niche right by the wheel well. Putting it in wasn't incredibly hard either, but getting the front and rear motor mounts aligned properly can be a pain.

And it's definitely best to leave the air condition compressor in the car, unless you really want to pay to have the air vacuumed out of your AC lines and then get it recharged.

Also, use this time to clean your engine bay. I was too lazy to do it, and thinking back, I probably should have while I was replacing the engine.
 
Yeah, I thought I might be able to turn(counterclockwise) the engine and tranny and make it come out but the tilt thing made it soooooo much easier. I did leave the AC compressor in the bay, and am about to start cleaning the engine bay also. :cool: It's gonna be like a whole new car again, except quicker :thumb:
Thanks, JB
 
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