90gst_sean
15+ Year Contributor
- 566
- 10
- Apr 9, 2006
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Seattle,
Washington
- LC1 Innovate wide band.
- No gauge / Wired into the ECU using the egr input.
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- I had a hard time getting a "normal" reading at first. When I'd log the wideband through dsmlink or logworks, I'd get hi and low outputs jumping up and down the screen. It seem like the senor was turning on and off a few times every second. It almost seemed to responded to throttle input while driving. This through me off for a while and made it hard to determine the cause being the widebands grounding wires.
- It turned out that my wideband grounds where attached in a bad spot. I had them all separately attached to the ecu / center console housing frame. I later attached half the grounds to one of two grounding bolts at the brace of the ecu / center console framing. The other half to the second housing bolt that was alone of other electrical system grounds (this was the widebands heater ground). This has seemed to solve the problem.
- After 200 miles or so, the sensor started displaying a ERROR 8 message and would no longer give me a afr reading.
- I believe this message is caused from wideband sensor over heating.
- I have the sensor installed on the far side of a Megan 3" downpipe, just before the "cat"
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- There are two options available and the cheapest I will suggest everyone do from the get-go! In the Innovate instructions they show a home made wideband heat sink to be installed like a washer between the downpipe o2 bung and the wideband sensor. I now believe any turbo car will need this extra help maintain proper sensor temperature. It will also help with sensor life!
- The biggest problem I've had in constructing this home made heat sink is finding the parts to make it. Innovate calls for a 14 gage, 4" x4" copper sheet; to be bent into a "U" and installed as a washer.
- I was finally able to locate something copper that will work from a LOCAL HOBBY SHOP.
- I will request that Innovate include this $7 piece of copper with there wideband kits in the future!!
- The second option and likely the best solution as it also addresses the heat applied the the senor tip exposed to exhaust gas flow; is around $100 and can be ordered from Innovate directly. I hope to solve my over heating sensor with the cheap $7 copper sheet bent into a cool shape with a hole drilled in the center.
- Will will soon see...
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- I have installed the copper heat shield and Its not really doing the trick. i'm still getting the error 8 code so I dont know for sure if my sensor is now bad. I suppose it could have gone bad do to driving with the error 8 active... i dont know.
- During the heat shield install I had to make major changes to its design. When putting together my bent copper I put way to much time into the shape of the bends, with layers and folds... theres not enough room for all that crap!
- Make your heat sink simple and small.
- No gauge / Wired into the ECU using the egr input.
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- I had a hard time getting a "normal" reading at first. When I'd log the wideband through dsmlink or logworks, I'd get hi and low outputs jumping up and down the screen. It seem like the senor was turning on and off a few times every second. It almost seemed to responded to throttle input while driving. This through me off for a while and made it hard to determine the cause being the widebands grounding wires.
- It turned out that my wideband grounds where attached in a bad spot. I had them all separately attached to the ecu / center console housing frame. I later attached half the grounds to one of two grounding bolts at the brace of the ecu / center console framing. The other half to the second housing bolt that was alone of other electrical system grounds (this was the widebands heater ground). This has seemed to solve the problem.
- After 200 miles or so, the sensor started displaying a ERROR 8 message and would no longer give me a afr reading.
- I believe this message is caused from wideband sensor over heating.
- I have the sensor installed on the far side of a Megan 3" downpipe, just before the "cat"
....- There are two options available and the cheapest I will suggest everyone do from the get-go! In the Innovate instructions they show a home made wideband heat sink to be installed like a washer between the downpipe o2 bung and the wideband sensor. I now believe any turbo car will need this extra help maintain proper sensor temperature. It will also help with sensor life!
- The biggest problem I've had in constructing this home made heat sink is finding the parts to make it. Innovate calls for a 14 gage, 4" x4" copper sheet; to be bent into a "U" and installed as a washer.
- I was finally able to locate something copper that will work from a LOCAL HOBBY SHOP.
- I will request that Innovate include this $7 piece of copper with there wideband kits in the future!!
- The second option and likely the best solution as it also addresses the heat applied the the senor tip exposed to exhaust gas flow; is around $100 and can be ordered from Innovate directly. I hope to solve my over heating sensor with the cheap $7 copper sheet bent into a cool shape with a hole drilled in the center.
- Will will soon see...
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- I have installed the copper heat shield and Its not really doing the trick. i'm still getting the error 8 code so I dont know for sure if my sensor is now bad. I suppose it could have gone bad do to driving with the error 8 active... i dont know.
- During the heat shield install I had to make major changes to its design. When putting together my bent copper I put way to much time into the shape of the bends, with layers and folds... theres not enough room for all that crap!
- Make your heat sink simple and small.
