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britdog

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Jun 27, 2011
tiffin, Ohio
First off i have a 93 7 bolt awd 5 speed
I'm looking for at least 320-350 for now and then going to over 400 in the future.
As of now it has no problems maintenance has been done.
-16g from ebay(dont laugh buddy gave it to me for free and it actually can pull hard)
-one stock cam with a D on it which i believe is the highest duration stock cam and one cam blue marked and is a BC 272
-walbro 255
-full 3in exhaust no cats
-tubular ebay exhaust manifold
-Front mount intercooler long route
-Afpr
-3in gm maf just not intstalled yet
-phantom boost gauge

My list of what I'm getting
FIC 650cc injector
aem wideband or getting the glowshift triple pod with their wideband just not sure how well it works.
Forged motor sport BOV
VRSF short route with new intercooler
big evo 3 16g plans of moving to a gt35r later on
kelford 272 cams
kelford springs
thinking about an safc for now to tune and save for link in the future
I also need to find a data logger not to good with tuning but ill do my research to figure it out. whats a good data logger at a good price?
 
I've seen 300 or so crank horse on a 16g. I am puttin down 370 on my hx35. I have fmic, pte 780s, rewired walbro, gm Maft, 3 inch exhaust, wide band, hks 264's and minor head work. With 272's I can see 300 wheel with the proper tune on a real mhi 16g.
 
#1 to get is dsm link #2 wideband ...Also go with bigger injectors so you have room to grow ,afpr
Don't save for link get it no matter , with wideband before cams springs etc
 
First off i have a 93 7 bolt awd 5 speed
I'm looking for at least 320-350 for now and then going to over 400 in the future.
As of now it has no problems maintenance has been done.
-16g from ebay(dont laugh buddy gave it to me for free and it actually can pull hard)
-one stock cam with a D on it which i believe is the highest duration stock cam and one cam blue marked and is a BC 272
-walbro 255
-full 3in exhaust no cats
-tubular ebay exhaust manifold
-Front mount intercooler long route
-Afpr
-3in gm maf just not intstalled yet
-phantom boost gauge

My list of what I'm getting
FIC 650cc injector
aem wideband or getting the glowshift triple pod with their wideband just not sure how well it works.
Forged motor sport BOV
VRSF short route with new intercooler
big evo 3 16g plans of moving to a gt35r later on
kelford 272 cams
kelford springs
thinking about an safc for now to tune and save for link in the future
I also need to find a data logger not to good with tuning but ill do my research to figure it out. whats a good data logger at a good price?

DSMlink, aem wide band are must.

gt35r turbo is a 650hp turbo? Kelford cams and springs are big power output. Crower 272's cams and springs, adjustable cam gears, Big evo 16g is plenty for your goal, port match your exhaust housing. Add some meth 20psi and you'll get there.

You don't need to buy the most expensive parts out there to make 400whp, so make sure to plan your build before buying.
 
First off i have a 93 7 bolt awd 5 speed
I'm looking for at least 320-350 for now and then going to over 400 in the future.
As of now it has no problems maintenance has been done.
-16g from ebay(dont laugh buddy gave it to me for free and it actually can pull hard)
-one stock cam with a D on it which i believe is the highest duration stock cam and one cam blue marked and is a BC 272
-walbro 255
-full 3in exhaust no cats
-tubular ebay exhaust manifold
-Front mount intercooler long route
-Afpr
-3in gm maf just not intstalled yet
-phantom boost gauge

My list of what I'm getting
FIC 650cc injector
aem wideband or getting the glowshift triple pod with their wideband just not sure how well it works.
Forged motor sport BOV
VRSF short route with new intercooler
big evo 3 16g plans of moving to a gt35r later on
kelford 272 cams
kelford springs
thinking about an safc for now to tune and save for link in the future
I also need to find a data logger not to good with tuning but ill do my research to figure it out. whats a good data logger at a good price?


These guys speak the truth about Link, especially since you have "mismatched" cams. It's built FOR our cars, and should make adding your GM MAF easy.

As far as your data logging, Zeitronix also makes a nice setup that other DSMers have used successfully. They have different display options, and plug and play sensors for all kinds of information - Wideband O2, IAT, EGT, Oil/Fuel Press, MAP, and various Temp sensors. Check it out - Zeitronix : Wideband Engine Datalogging Systems and Accessories
 
Im not knocking the ebay turbo but I think a reliable turbo should be in your future, even if its a rebuild mhi turbo. I ran the ebay special for a while to get me into something good but as soon as I pushed it to 25 lbs that thing let loose and im lucky because I could of really done some engine damage. Try to get something quality, dsms are touchy as is a far as things breaking on you why add to the work load?
 
Mi"sma;153195472 said:
DSMlink, aem wide band are must.

gt35r turbo is a 650hp turbo?

+1 for dsm link and wideband.
If your thinking about running that turbo I would personally get more than 650 injectors. I'm going to be running bigger than a 16g when I start my build (come on taxes!!) But my reasoning being I don't want to max out a 16g and then have to buy turbo after turbo when I want to get my numbers up.
Just my .02
 
I just have one thing to say. Dont compromise!! You already kind of have, mismatched cams, ebay turbo... Stop doing it "the way you can right now" and do it right man... youll be way farther ahead of the game. Let me tell you my timeline and that should give you an idea what to do.
After intake exhaust and gm maft, I got link. Didnt mess with datalogs or anymore piggyback BS that together cost the same as link. Then found out my 14b hotside was badly cracked. So 'just to get me by' I went ebay big16 and ebay fmic. After mod after mod I realized fmic was a pile of shit. On a pull my charge temps would grow to 150* and cause knock, but these together with supporting mods these did get me into high 12s, and yeah I put over 5k miles on the turbo but its kinda like having a bomb waiting to go off. and now Im buying the shit again. VRSF fmic installed, and its a world better, able to run 3 more degrees of timing picked up A TON of power, turbo got hogged out and rebuilt with good parts to make a TD05 20g (bastard 20g)... so long story short, just do it right. If I were you, DONT DO A THING MORE TO YOUR CAR and save for link V3 full, get the GM maf cable or- find a used maft and go V3 lite, but get a wideband, and tune your stuff so its safe and go from there. You shouldnt have gone this far without tuning tools, its simply a gamble. You did some go fast goodies now its time to make your stuff last. As far as your future plans... throw the thoughts of 650 injectors right out the window, once you have link you can go as big as you ever plan on going, itll still run factory (see the no compromise coming in?) you havent said anything about ARP headstuds, do those one by one leaving the HG on, and you dont need valvesprings stock is fine
 
sell the ebay 16g and buy a real turbo.

small 16g can be had for 200-300$
evo 3 16g's can be had for 300-350$
big 16g's can be had for 400-500$

prices may vary on location but thats what theyre worth around here so look hard enough and find a deal. dont put crap on a dsm. put shit in get shit out
 
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