GSX vs GST questions..

[yell-O]

I am going to be getting a 97 GSX approx 120k miles on it.
I already own a non turbo eclipse so I have a couple of questions regarding AWD eclipses.
I have read somewhat about 6 bolt swaps. Alot of the threads are mostly about questions on how to do it.
My question is what is the purpose of the 6 bolt swap?

what other kind of swaps do the AWD do?

I need to make a choice between a GST or a GSX. I have two people selling both for the same price. The GST howwever has 100k miles on it and the GSX has 120k. What am I better off getting? I am really not looking to go like everybody says 400-450 hp. i am looking for somewhere between 250-275.

Another question I have is , the upgrades for GST vs GSX? does the GSX have more expensive upgrades compared to the GST?

Any other opinions from you guys?
What should I be looking when comparing both cars. I know crankwalk has got to be an issue. other than that?

thanks in advance.

 

[DSMvroom]

I am going to be getting a 97 GSX approx 120k miles on it.
I already own a non turbo eclipse so I have a couple of questions regarding AWD eclipses.
I have read somewhat about 6 bolt swaps. Alot of the threads are mostly about questions on how to do it.
My question is what is the purpose of the 6 bolt swap?

what other kind of swaps do the AWD do?

I need to make a choice between a GST or a GSX. I have two people selling both for the same price. The GST howwever has 100k miles on it and the GSX has 120k. What am I better off getting? I am really not looking to go like everybody says 400-450 hp. i am looking for somewhere between 250-275.

Another question I have is , the upgrades for GST vs GSX? does the GSX have more expensive upgrades compared to the GST?

Any other opinions from you guys?
What should I be looking when comparing both cars. I know crankwalk has got to be an issue. other than that?

thanks in advance.

ppl dont do 6bolt swaps only to AWD, FWDs do it also in order to reduce likelihood of CW and because AFAIK it is a stronger bottom end.


GSX is better from a dig. You will get faster quarter miles with less money.
GST is better from a roll. Highway races? GST for the win.
You can spend the same amount of money on both and get the same hp at the flywheel; at the wheels it will be quite different. *EDIT* GST will make more hp at the wheels due to less drivetrain loss. */EDIT*

And throw CW out of your head and pretend you've never heard of it, otherwise just forget about DSMs and buy a different car. No need to worry about something that prolly won't happen to you.

 

[speedy13]

if they were both the same price and in the same condition i would go for the gsx.but if the gst is in better condition,i would go for it.If your gonna be making 250 whp then you won't have crazy traction problems with a gst,and if you do,it's nothing a lsd wont fix.howver,if you go out and test them both,and you launch the awd,you'll be sold.An awd launch is very violent beautifull feeling,specially the first time,AHHH, i can still remember my first AWD launch...

 

[Kalow]

Look if you go fwd you will regret it later on go with the awd its alot of fun.

Also CW is crank walk i just figured you might not know due to the questions your asking.

 

[yell-O]

thanks for the reply guys..
I will be checking out both cars today and will let you know.
I think i might go with the GSX .
someone mentioned GST is probably a highway race killer? i dont really beleive in highway races.
Im not worried about crankwalk all that much, if it happens , it happens.

 

[BLampinen]

i got a -T i raced an -X at the drags... he kicked my ass off the line, ended up beating me though i was catching him. next time around, i beat him by a pretty good distance because he intentionally hesitated on the launch to let me catch traction. the FWD 3rd gear is amazing. the AWD is a little lower in the top of 3rd. dont know why, but it is. so basically, yeah T's are quicker from a roll X's from a launch. oh and BTW, i wish i had the X

 

[siceclipse]

Get the X and dont look back. You will NEVER regret it! This, i promise.

 

[Catoboli]

i have the X and its amazing, even from a rolling start i pull on people all teh time, seriously the awd launch is no joke i swear i wet myself the first time. get the X i dont regret it a bit.....

 

[Catoboli]

one other thing noone has menttioned. the X gets slightly less fuel efficency MAYBE 1-2 MPG in the city and barely any diff on the highway

 

[Denji]

go with the gsx, it makes driving in the rain more enjoyable too, as you can still accelerate without wheel spin.

 

[never2muchBoost]

gsx isn't that much slower than a gst, i bet you wont notice a difference, no wheelspin is good too . gsx's also have 2 piston brakes up front as opposed to the crappy 1 piston with the gst's. and dont worry about crankwalk, you'll spin a rod bearing before u get crankwalk. also very rare as much as people say it's not.

 

[yell-O]

i wishhh they made a spyder gsx . it would have been the best thing ever.
i think im gonna go with the X.
does anyone know the 0-60 of a stock X vs T ?
also , if i get a GSX , am i gonna have to do a 6 bolt swap? is it a recommended thing or not? could someone please give me the pros n cons of the 6 bolt swap.

thanks guys.

 

[Kalow]

6 bolts are over-rated. I mean if your going to build your engine up you might as well get a 6 bolt short block off the trader but until you cw her (which prolly wont happen) then dont worry. If anything just try to stay away from 7 bolt mods that wont crossover to a 6 bolt (if your that worried).

 

[grobsgsx]

there are two types of dsm owners: ones that have awd and ones that wish they had awd.
go with the gsx

 

[S_Ranger]

there are two types of dsm owners: ones that have awd and ones that wish they had awd.
go with the gsx

Shutup...

 

[amp9211]

So did you test drive them? What were they like? Let us know what you found out and which one you are getting!

Later.

 

[Hondahunter_666]

there are two types of dsm owners: ones that have awd and ones that wish they had awd.
go with the gsx

I know I wish I had! (it is kinda fun to be able to let them rip on the freeway all the way through 5th gear when its wet though)

 

[midnght]

6 bolts are over-rated. I mean if your going to build your engine up you might as well get a 6 bolt short block off the trader but until you cw her (which prolly wont happen) then dont worry. If anything just try to stay away from 7 bolt mods that wont crossover to a 6 bolt (if your that worried).

WTF

Is it just me or is your entire post a contradiction?


How is a stronger bottom end= Overrated?
Then why do you recommend the shortblock and not other parts that are better for a 2g/1g combo?
Then you tell him to stay away from 7bolt specific parts.

 

[styx]

i have a gsx F-that get a gst and put a lsd in it. you would be surprised how much quicker a gst accelerates with the same mods. 10mph to 80mph the gst will kill the gsx if they both have the same mods, including lsd in the front for the gsx

 

[midnght]

i have a gsx F-that get a gst and put a lsd in it. you would be surprised how much quicker a gst accelerates with the same mods. 10mph to 80mph the gst will kill the gsx if they both have the same mods, including lsd in the front for the gsx

Finally, someone that is NOT on the AWD nutbag.

FWD is hard to get lower than a 11sec pass, but honestly most are not going to see 10's. Since about 1.5 yrs ago people on here just started popping up asking how to make a 10000000hp monster...but to keep it street worthy. Street racing is not cool by any means, but the MAJORITY of the "spirited driving" is going to be done on the highway.

Not that anyone in this thread did, just stating how things are changing. AWD is fun and can be great for you track whores, but the GS-T is fun all day and night on the highway and the wallet.

 

[styx]

Finally, someone that is NOT on the AWD nutbag.

FWD is hard to get lower than a 11sec pass, but honestly most are not going to see 10's. Since about 1.5 yrs ago people on here just started popping up asking how to make a 10000000hp monster...but to keep it street worthy. Street racing is not cool by any means, but the MAJORITY of the "spirited driving" is going to be done on the highway.

Not that anyone in this thread did, just stating how things are changing. AWD is fun and can be great for you track whores, but the GS-T is fun all day and night on the highway and the wallet.

Word man, i my friend sold is mildly modded 1g gst which he was going after c5's with and got a 1g gsx (because of the gsx nutbag train), he misses that gst even though he modded the hell out of the gsx (16g crap and all).

 

[midnght]

Same thing with the guy on here from B'more. He had a sweet ass black GS-T, sold it for a white GSX and later wanted to sell the GSX or just trade straight up for another GS-T.


It is a personal preference, I know. But like a fine whine, it is an aquired taste.

 

[kylehlub]

In general a gsx has more potential becuase it's AWD. However, with a GS-T, you will feel it more when the turbo kicks in because it's only front wheel so it pulls you harder. With a GSX, it takes off quicker but you don't feel it pull you as hard because of the AWD. It kind of just takes off and not pull as much. But the AWD does make the GS-X feel alot lighter than a GST when you're driving. Also Spyders weigh more than regular GS-T so that's probably why they don't make GS-X spyder.

 

[Defiant]

And thanks for bringing this one back.

So I could kill it.

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