car engine issues (engine dies wont start again)

[TazManianDevil]

I was driving in the freeway doing 65mph, driving for 35 mins. suddenly the engine dies! I was in the 5th gear at that time, I put it in neutral after 8-12 sec. (cause I cant believe the engine dies in the freeway!) Pulled over in the side I open the hood check everything maybe something breaks or leaks, theres none. I tried to start it again electric is fine but it just wont start

Could it be fuel pump? I have no idea but kinda thinking about it, and my Check Engine light is on. I just hope it's nothing serious

My baby just got here

 

[dsun87]

that hurts
and depressing

 

[n55long]

crankshaft position sensor is my best guess....

 

[TazManianDevil]

what aftermarket parts do you have on it? was it just sudden or a sputter? WTF

just greddy type-s BOV, K&N open type air filter, lower intercooler pipe. I installed them a long time ago so I'm sure it's not the parts i installed

 

[TazManianDevil]

crankshaft position sensor is my best guess....

I'm not sure with this one but is cam angle sensor and crankshaft position sensor the same? cause I just replace the cam angle sensor probably a year ago. But if not I'm sure I need to change it since my car is not starting

 

[BoostFrenzy]

It could be timing related. But we need more of a description of how it died. I know of a guy over here that had the same thing happen to him. he was on the freeway, engine died he put it in neutral, and then he coasted to the side of the freeway. He later found out that his timing jumped so the Mitsubishi dealership said it was DOA. Could be a simple fix or it could be serious. If it was the pump, you wouldn't be able to hear it prime the system when you put the key to the step right before start. So if you can remember as much of it as you can and maybe even some weird events prior to this then we can diagnose it much faster. Hope it isnt too serious.

 

[strippedlug]

Does it crank "fast"? Listen to the engine closely. A broken timing belt is my best guess with the info given. When was the last time it was checked/replaced? Take the side cam pulley cover off (super easy). If you see the belt in tact, have a buddy crank it over. If you see the cams move, then it's on to the next thing. Broken timing belts are the cause of SOOO many highway breakdowns!

 

[TazManianDevil]

It could be timing related. But we need more of a description of how it died. I know of a guy over here that had the same thing happen to him. he was on the freeway, engine died he put it in neutral, and then he coasted to the side of the freeway. He later found out that his timing jumped so the Mitsubishi dealership said it was DOA. Could be a simple fix or it could be serious. If it was the pump, you wouldn't be able to hear it prime the system when you put the key to the step right before start. So if you can remember as much of it as you can and maybe even some weird events prior to this then we can diagnose it much faster. Hope it isnt too serious.

sounds like the guy you know, I did the same thing put in neutral as soon as i noticed the engine died. I was in the freeway doing 65 mph everything is fine no weird sound, the check engine light turns On after that. It did bogs(boggy) a little just like 1-2 times like (spark plug needs to be change) but just a little bit unnoticeable. So far thats what i remember.

 

[strippedlug]

It could be timing related. But we need more of a description of how it died. I know of a guy over here that had the same thing happen to him. he was on the freeway, engine died he put it in neutral, and then he coasted to the side of the freeway. He later found out that his timing jumped so the Mitsubishi dealership said it was DOA. Could be a simple fix or it could be serious. If it was the pump, you wouldn't be able to hear it prime the system when you put the key to the step right before start. So if you can remember as much of it as you can and maybe even some weird events prior to this then we can diagnose it much faster. Hope it isnt too serious.

I wonder how the dealership found out so fast it was DOA. Unless they just assumed like so many mechanics do (I know a few that's how I got my DSM) that if the belt broke on the highway, then since it's an interference engine, it's toast. It all depends. I made a tool from an old compression tester that allows you to pump air into each individual cylinder, then while turning the cams by hand listen for leaks when valves are supposedly closed . Pretty reliable method of finding bent valves without installing a belt and pushing it back out. "Your car is dead, $500 please" eughhh

 

[BoostFrenzy]

sounds like the guy you know, I did the same thing put in neutral as soon as i noticed the engine died. I was in the freeway doing 65 mph everything is fine no weird sound, the check engine light turns On after that. It did bogs(boggy) a little just like 1-2 times like (spark plug needs to be change) but just a little bit unnoticeable. So far thats what i remember.

Hate to tell ya, but to me that sounds like timing went wrong. If i am right, dont try to start the motor. Because this will only make things worse. If it jumped bad enough, you would have a few bent valves or even a dented piston. But these are worse case scenarios.

Here is a search on jumped timing on here:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/search.php?searchid=3174170

Read up on those and see what kind of trouble you may be into.

 

[TazManianDevil]

Does it crank "fast"? Listen to the engine closely. A broken timing belt is my best guess with the info given. When was the last time it was checked/replaced? Take the side cam pulley cover off (super easy). If you see the belt in tact, have a buddy crank it over. If you see the cams move, then it's on to the next thing. Broken timing belts are the cause of SOOO many highway breakdowns!

It does crank fine but it just won go through, The timing belt is fine intact and it does turn. I just want to take the car to the autzone so they can check the CEL code, and the autozone is 5-6 blocks away from here or probably just by my own OBD II caode reader since i know i'll gonna need it

http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do?keyword=OBD+2&Submit=Go

good price?

 

[strippedlug]

It does crank fine but it just won go through, The timing belt is fine intact and it does turn. I just want to take the car to the autzone so they can check the CEL code, and the autozone is 5-6 blocks away from here or probably just by my own OBD II caode reader since i know i'll gonna need it

http://search.harborfreight.com/cpisearch/web/search.do?keyword=OBD+2&Submit=Go

good price?

yes the price sounds right. i would never take my car to Autozone for that, only because they all think that tool is a magic wand that tells them what's wrong with your car. The guys in my town will actually go as far as to say they diagnose the cars! I don't know how many people come to my shop handing me O2 sensors and saying "autozone said...." Most of the time it's a freakin vaccuum leak or converter failure. ANYWAY!
I'm still wondering if maybe the belt didn't jump, but first off check to see what you're missing. Spark (with a tester or hold your fingertip at the end of the coil pack (kidding). Fuel. Also listen for the pump. Injector pulse. Buy a NOID LIGHT from any parts store for pennies and plug it into an unplugged injector harness and crank the engine. It should blink. Check for any obvious pipe issues (ie the pipe coming off the throttle body or MAF. FUSES! Check all your fuses underhood and underdash. Good luck man! And keep us posted. Oh and if all of the above checks out, Put the engine to top dead center and check the timing marks just to make sure the belt didn't actually slip

 

[yesItsdsm]

Maybe your ECU crapped out on you. Although I've never heard of that happening while the car is in motion. Wouldn't hurt to check.

 

[strippedlug]

Maybe your ECU crapped out on you. Although I've never heard of that happening while the car is in motion. Wouldn't hurt to check.

I really didn't think the 2G ECU's were much of a problem. At least not like the capasitor leaking 1G's . Am I wrong? Edumacate me !
I would still check the basics first before pulling the ECU.

A super quick test would be to take some carb cleaner, spray into the brake booster vaccuum line and reconnect. Does it attempt to start at all? That will tell you if you have a spark problem or not

 

[TazManianDevil]

I really didn't think the 2G ECU's were much of a problem. At least not like the capasitor leaking 1G's . Am I wrong? Edumacate me !
I would still check the basics first before pulling the ECU.

A super quick test would be to take some carb cleaner, spray into the brake booster vaccuum line and reconnect. Does it attempt to start at all? That will tell you if you have a spark problem or not

Yap it does tries to start but it wont go through, It sounds like theres nothing wrong with it Im sure it theres something wrong

The only reason I take my car in autozone they have a free OBD II reader, I dont want to take my car in the stealership right now. But if I have no choice I'll probably take it

Thanks for helping I'll keep you guys posted

 

[TazManianDevil]

Sorry guys took forever for me to reply but I already got it scanned and it says "P0335" crankshaft position sensor A circuit malfunction. Ok quick question now What or Where can I find the part/s that I need to replace to fix my baby? and we just had our first baby a real baby thats why it took me forever to scan the car.

 

[TearsForTalon]

thats no good for anyone. hopefully it wasn't the timing belt. but then, it'd probably be more dramatic if that was the case. like a couple of bangs and such. good luck, man.

 

[TazManianDevil]

so the engine is pretty much broken? do i have to bring it in the shop?

 

[TazManianDevil]

my DSM is back and running sorry it took forever for me to reply back and update you guys, I just took it to the nearest shop cause after the last post i did here, the car trow a code and it's something internal they showed me the parts they replaced (something about the crankshaft blade and a small belt!) I cant believe our car have a small rubber belt inside! anyway it's all good now.

thank you again!

 

[Kalisko]

I was doing the same thing in mine...Doing 65 for about 25 minutes then bog bog bog bog bog bog pulled over and my valve dropped and a piston slapped my spark plug and put a hole in it and just killed my engine. I almost thought you had the same problem, I was almost sad , but i'm glad you got it fixed man!