AUTO vs. MANUAL

[KiD_DSM115]

yeah, I know this has been done,(searched no real answer) this is not in HangOut section becuase I want to know the answer. [ if you flame, then flame, but please answer the question while flamin ]


I'm not hating on A/T trans. but, one of my friend's has a auto. He said he would not get a stick shift because no matter what, Auto > Manual...street,track,,etc. His reasons being the following;

1)auto can build boost manual can't
2)auto can hold boost during shifts, manual can't
3)you can't miss a shift with an auto with manual you can
4)with a torque converter and a shift kit, the auto will out shift a manual everytime


my question is, so if this is all true, what is it about the Manual Trans that make them good?...in the end...assuming both types of the DSM's were stock or had the same mods, except one is auto and the other stick, AUTO/Stick ?...... x > x? Im not talkin fwd vs awd either...im talkin auto fwd vs manual fwd..|..manual awd vs auto awd...

He says there are threads already, where is one that Auto is > than stick.

 

[Syndicate13]

IMO an Auto with a TQ, shift kit, and end clutches > stock Manual

Those 3 things will more than make up for the extra drivetrain loss an auto has.

true stock for stock manual > auto

"1)auto can build boost manual can't
2)auto can hold boost during shifts, manual can't
3)you can't miss a shift with an auto with manual you can
4)with a torque converter and a shift kit, the auto will out shift a manual everytime"

these four things are true.

Actually the last 2 may be true but the first 2 aren't. My car is a 5 speed and builds 17 psi at the line. And it more than holds boost between shifts, I'm trying to figure out how to stop my spike. And stock DSM autos drop timing between shifts so you have to wait for it to build again in the next gear.

 

[Eclipsei95cl]

yes, autos are great and i personally enjoy them. But the only flaw i see to it is the reliability..yeah i believe the auto is reliable to a point. 2 years ago my trans was sent out to level 10 and had a full rebuild and restalled torque converter. I was runnin my 16g on it just fine for about a year then i decided to step it up and i put a t04s 60-1 on it..Running about 18psi daily. After about 2 months...My trans just totally failed...converter was fuked,trans pump was gone, needed a full rebuild. Order the IPT rebuild kit and it is running fine now but i am only runnin 14 psi and not pushin the car because im afraid the trans will break. So what im tryin to say is yeah autos have there advatanges/disadvanatges and same goes for manuals. Like someone said its all on preference both can be made into fast ass cars. The only thing i dont like about the auto is that there really isnt too many mods or places that will build ur auto, seems like IPT is the only one out there..Where as you have TRE and Shep buildin manual transmissions,they offer soo many different mods u can do to the trans. For a auto its like shift kit,end clutches and converter is about it. If i was gonna get a manual or an auto i would go manual not based on speed but with a manual there are alot more mods and places that will build up a manual. Also yes a automatic does weigh more than a manual . Stock for stock a manual will win no doubt. Stock autos transmissions are pretty slow.

 

[Onnipotente]

correct me if im wrong, but what makes a manual faster than an automatic is its gears(5 instead of 4) and its gear ratios.

 

[Defiant]

thanks for all comments, I conclude that in the end, it depends on the preference of the driver i guess... well thanks

What a happy end.

You're welcome.