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IslanderTsi

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Mar 15, 2006
charlottetown,
So whats this software like? any good? I have a line on a complete 2g set up for a good price and I was wondering if this software was any good?

Also I was wondering if this would be a logical next step as far as mods go. I will have a full tbe on before this and i am trying to decide whats next.

A logger,mbc, fuel pump, fp regulator and so on. Which way would you go? Only reason I am not in a rush to get an mbc is because my car is already running roughly 15lbs on its own just from the bcs removal and the ic pipes/intake etc.
 
It's a bit clunky, but it's free (plus a $82 serial/OBD2 adapter), so it's more than worth it for the ability to see what the car is doing. The downside, of course, is the inability to see knock other than guessing at it by watching timing being pulled or observing BCS activity, but you'll have that with any OBD2 logging package.

Let me be the first to commend you on getting a logger of some kind before playing with air/fuel settings, by the way.

As for next steps, if you're happy with the boost level you're at now, then I'd focus on infrastructure. If you're planning on going larger than a Walbro 190lph pump, then I'd probably do a fuel pressure regulator (and don't forget a pressure gauge) first, followed by the pump, so that you keep pressure in check.

Also, once you have a logger, you'll almost definitely want to start making A/F changes, so some form of fuel tuning is probably in order; SAFC, DSMLink (you have a '95, so you might have an EPROM ECU, making DSMLink a much more attractive option), ECU+, or even something like AEM, depending on your long-term goals and financial situation. ;) Because you can't monitor knock with the logger you're looking at, you're at a bit of a disadvantage, so you might want to consider a wideband O2 sensor/gauge as well so that you can keep within a safe window. (Three years ago, I wouldn't have dreamed of suggesting that, but availability of these is so good today, it's become almost a requirement.)

But really, most of the suggestions you'll probably get here are going to be biased based on the respondant's goals and experience. What are your goals? Do you have a realistic target in mind of what you want to do with the car? With that in mind, build-up plans start falling into place fairly naturally.
 
Good response thanks alot. To be honest in the end I will probably go no further than a 16g variant with this car or maybe even just a 14b. I figure by the time I am done of school (1 year) and start making some real money I will just pick up a better car like a used evo or sti.

This is a budget build and all I expect to do at best is a high 12. So in my future i plan on a 255lph fp, aeromotive kit from some good vendor, an upraded turbo, no more than a 16g kit from tbchargers.com. And some other small things. Maybe an alcky/water injection kit or a nitrous on intercooleer sprayer set up to make up for the stock side mount.

I figure for tuning and safc and a logger of some sort at best. If i had a laptop I would probably pick up dsmlonk (I have a major hardon for it but cant justify the cost) but I dont.

I am at the point now where all I have left are real supporting mods so i want to make the best decisions.

Car ran a best of 14.36 last year with stock exhaust. Hoping for a high 13 with the new tbe.

I will have $500 or so to spend this summer and the logger will cost me about $100 if I get it. Where yould you go next?
 
Regarding DSMLink, you do know that there's a palm client for it, right? :) When you consider the cost of the logging setup, SAFC, and the value of extras like the ability to see knock and adjust timing, the price starts looking pretty good (and a unified interface for tuning your car isn't something to scoff at; ask the AEM guys). That being said, for a budget build, an SAFC is just fine (for my wife's 1g, we're using custom chips that I've burned, plus an AFC for fine-tuning).

It sounds like you already have a good handle on where you want to go, and a good plan for getting there. Like I said above, "infrastructure" is what I'd focus on: supporting fuel and tuning modifications so that running more boost (or a larger turbo) isn't an exercise in "what did I break now?". :)
 
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