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Marceldsm

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Jan 13, 2010
Montreal, QC, Canada
SO
im fixing my talon

FINALY CHANGED MY CLUTCH !!!!!!!!
at first i what getting only 1 code
12 air flow sensor

my 1g had a 2 g maf so i whas tinking the maf is damaged

i get a 1g used maf install it inside the car

NEW IM GETTING 3 CODES !!!!!!!!!!!

12: AIF FLOW SENSOR
14: THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR
25 BAROMETRIC PRESSURE SENSOR


I DID ALL THE TESTS ON THE WIRE CONNECTOR FOR THE 1G MAF ......EVERYTING IS OK I MEEN RESISTANCE AND POWER AND EVERYTING
ACCORDING TO HAYNES MANUAL
( SO IM TINKING I HAVE 2 DEFECTIVE SENSORS JUST MY LUCK)

AS FOR CODE 14 ( TROTTLE POSITION) THE OLD OWNER USED A PLASTIC TIE TO HOLD THE TERMINAL TO THE SENSOR

I USED A DATALOGGER AND SAFC ( ALL ON TPS %) TO SEE IF IT GIVES A SIGNAL

AT LAW TROTTLE IT JUST WHANTS TO DIE AND ITS CHOKING BOUTH THE DATALOGGER AND THE SAFC SAY 0% ONCE THE RPM`S PASS 3000 IT JUMPS TO 100% AND THE CAR JUST TAKES OFF LIKE A ROCKET LIKE IT WHANT TO KILL YOU OR SOMETING
ME AND MY FRIND WE AJUST THE TPS WE ACTUALY MADE IT SO WHEN YOU GIVE IT A LITTLE GAS IT GIVES A SIGNAL 10% 20% SO THAT WHAS OK.......BUT YOU GO AROUND THE BLOCK THE STUPID SENSOR MOVES OUT OF POSITION ( PLUG INCLUDET) AND THEN AGAIN SAME STORY ABOUVE
3000 PRM = 0% THROTTLE END AFTER THAT 100% THOTTLE

do i change tHE sensor and the connector oR what ??!!! is it a terminal problem or a connector
all the voltage and continuity test were inconclusive and i actualy got more mix then anyting

the ecm looks to be ok i did open it up and it look ok no leaks nothing



PART 2



i have right new 2 dsm 1g mafs in good condition ( from some friends of myne here in quebec )

trayd the two...........................same story
even disconnected the car gives the same exact codes ,12 and 25 so thats it
I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO

CHANGE THE ECU ?%????


TESTS I DID
ON THE CONNECTOR SIDE

SIGNAL VOLTAGE ( AIRFLOW)
NORMALY ( 4.8 TO 5,9 FOR OPTIMAL PERFORMANCE )
I HAVE 4,95 WHICH IS GOOD :thumb:
SIGNAL VOLTAGE TERMINAL TO Haynes manual

BATTERY VOLTAGE TO THE CONNECTOR

BATTERY VOLTAGE TERMINAL 3( HAYNES MANUAL ) = BATTERY VOLTAGE IN OPTIMAL CASES 12v IN MY CASE 10,78 MY BATTERY IS WEAK BUTH THE CAR STARTS MEENT SO NO PROBLEM THERE :thumb:

BAROMETRIC PRESSURE SENSOR TEST
TESTING CONTINUITY
TERMINAL NUMBER 6( HAYNES MANUAL )
TESTET ON BODY GROUND = 0.5 OHM VERYY GOOD A LITTLE HIGHT BUTH GOOD :thumb:

FROM TERMINAL TO ECU TERMINAL 24 ( GREEN-BLACK )

IM GETTING 0,4 OHM THAT IT GOOD :thumb:


ALL THESE CHEKS OUT
SO .................................I DECIDED TO GO ALL DATA PRO

I WHANNA TEST CONTINUITYY ON THE AIRFLOW SIGNAL IS SAYS

GL TO TERMINAL 10 ON THE ECU TERMINAL
KNOW
WHAT DOSE GL STANNDS FOR ???

THE ECU TERMINALS ARE SPICED INTO FOR THE SAFC ........AND IT LOOKS LIKE TERMINAL 10 ( MAS AIR FLOW SIGNAL WHAS NOT SPICED PROPERLY)
TANKS IN ADVANCE ................SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH ..........

NEED HELP PLEASE ...................

THE STANGE TING THE CAR WHAS WORKING BEFORE I CHANGED MY CLUTCH NEW IM GETTING THESE CODES :ohdamn:
EVEN WHITH AL THE SPICES IN THE ECU EVERYTING IS OK

WHAY EM I GETTING THESE CODES NEW ???! :confused:


IS THE ECU DONNE


PLEASE HELP !!!!!!!

anybody ???
i need some help whit these one
 
Wow, not only is the caps annoying but the different colors is making my eyes hurt. Please clean it up some....... Then I'll try reading through it;D
 
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SO
im fixing my talon

FINALY CHANGED MY CLUTCH !!!!!!!!
at first i what getting only 1 code
12 air flow sensor

my 1g had a 2 g maf so i whas tinking the maf is damaged

i get a 1g used maf install it inside the car

NEW IM GETTING 3 CODES !!!!!!!!!!!

12: AIF FLOW SENSOR
14: THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR
25 BAROMETRIC PRESSURE SENSOR


I DID ALL THE TESTS ON THE WIRE CONNECTOR FOR THE 1G MAF ......EVERYTING IS OK I MEEN RESISTANCE AND POWER AND EVERYTING
ACCORDING TO HAYNES MANUAL
( SO IM TINKING I HAVE 2 DEFECTIVE SENSORS JUST MY LUCK)
AS FOR CODE 14 ( TROTTLE POSITION) THE OLD OWNER USED A PLASTIC TIE TO HOLD THE TERMINAL TO THE SENSOR

I USED A DATALOGGER AND SAFC ( ALL ON TPS %) TO SEE IF IT GIVES A SIGNAL

AT LAW TROTTLE IT JUST WHANTS TO DIE AND ITS CHOKING BOUTH THE DATALOGGER AND THE SAFC SAY 0% ONCE THE RPM`S PASS 3000 IT JUMPS TO 100% AND THE CAR JUST TAKES OFF LIKE A ROCKET LIKE IT WHANT TO KILL YOU OR SOMETING
ME AND MY FRIND WE AJUST THE TPS WE ACTUALY MADE IT SO WHEN YOU GIVE IT A LITTLE GAS IT GIVES A SIGNAL 10% 20% SO THAT WHAS OK.......BUT YOU GO AROUND THE BLOCK THE STUPID SENSOR MOVES OUT OF POSITION ( PLUG INCLUDET) AND THEN AGAIN SAME STORY ABOUVE
3000 PRM = 0% THROTTLE END AFTER THAT 100% THOTTLE

do i change tHE sensor and the connector oR what ??!!! is it a terminal problem or a connector
all the voltage and continuity test were inconclusive and i actualy got more mix then anyting

the ecm looks to be ok i did open it up and it look ok no leaks nothing



PART 2



i have right new 2 dsm 1g mafs in good condition ( from some friends of myne here in quebec )

trayd the two...........................same story
even disconnected the car gives the same exact codes ,12 and 25 so thats it
I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO
CHANGE THE ECU ?%????


TESTS I DID
ON THE CONNECTOR SIDE

SIGNAL VOLTAGE ( AIRFLOW)
NORMALY ( 4.8 TO 5,9 FOR OPTIMAL PERFORMANCE )
I HAVE 4,95 WHICH IS GOOD
SIGNAL VOLTAGE TERMINAL TO Haynes manual

BATTERY VOLTAGE TO THE CONNECTOR

BATTERY VOLTAGE TERMINAL 3( HAYNES MANUAL ) = BATTERY VOLTAGE IN OPTIMAL CASES 12v IN MY CASE 10,78 MY BATTERY IS WEAK BUTH THE CAR STARTS MEENT SO NO PROBLEM THERE

BAROMETRIC PRESSURE SENSOR TEST
TESTING CONTINUITY
TERMINAL NUMBER 6( HAYNES MANUAL )
TESTET ON BODY GROUND = 0.5 OHM VERYY GOOD A LITTLE HIGHT BUTH GOOD

FROM TERMINAL TO ECU TERMINAL 24 ( GREEN-BLACK )

IM GETTING 0,4 OHM THAT IT GOOD


ALL THESE CHEKS OUT
SO .................................I DECIDED TO GO ALL DATA PRO

I WHANNA TEST CONTINUITYY ON THE AIRFLOW SIGNAL IS SAYS

GL TO TERMINAL 10 ON THE ECU TERMINAL
KNOW
WHAT DOSE GL STANNDS FOR ???

THE ECU TERMINALS ARE SPICED INTO FOR THE SAFC ........AND IT LOOKS LIKE TERMINAL 10 ( MAS AIR FLOW SIGNAL WHAS NOT SPICED PROPERLY)
TANKS IN ADVANCE ................SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH ..........

NEED HELP PLEASE ...................

THE STANGE TING THE CAR WHAS WORKING BEFORE I CHANGED MY CLUTCH NEW IM GETTING THESE CODES
EVEN WHITH AL THE SPICES IN THE ECU EVERYTING IS OK

WHAY EM I GETTING THESE CODES NEW ???!


IS THE ECU DONNE


PLEASE HELP !!!!!!!

anybody ???
i need some help whit these one
 
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