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power=dsm

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Aug 22, 2003
the car was sitting in front of my girlfriends house and we were talking in it for about an hour and I left the car in acc. On mistake when I was leaving I had forgotten I left the car in first gear, so when I started the car it jolted and I turned let off the key. Then I take it out of 1st and tried again and nothing happened just made a funny noise. Then i try again and bam the car doesn't do anything :cry: I tried boosting the car didn't work, I tried a push start and the car would never catch. prior to the incident -i changed my oil(which shouldn't affect it in any way)because i drove it around for about 30k
2)last week i got into a accident where i ran into a curve, and broke my front passanger a-arm.

Now the only thing that is working on my car is that stupid factory kill switch light, and my car doesn't even have a kill switch!

sorry for the long post but do you have any idea!!!!!!!! :cry:
 
power=dsm said:
the car was sitting in front of my girlfriends house and we were talking in it for about an hour and I left the car in acc. On mistake when I was leaving I had forgotten I left the car in first gear, so when I started the car it jolted and I turned let off the key. Then I take it out of 1st and tried again and nothing happened just made a funny noise. Then i try again and bam the car doesn't do anything :cry: I tried boosting the car didn't work, I tried a push start and the car would never catch. prior to the incident -i changed my oil(which shouldn't affect it in any way)because i drove it around for about 30k
2)last week i got into a accident where i ran into a curve, and broke my front passanger a-arm.

Now the only thing that is working on my car is that stupid factory kill switch light, and my car doesn't even have a kill switch!

sorry for the long post but do you have any idea!!!!!!!! :cry:

You tried boosting the car? You mean like a jum start?
If you turn your headlights on are they bright, or dim?

Funny noises are important. When you tried to start it again what kind of funny noise did it make?
 
a clicking noise which was coming from the back of the car,
no the head lights don't work nothing works but my blinking little kill switch light which came with the car

the werid thing is that when i try to start it nothing works not even the radio nothing but, my battery still has energy?

i think this is going to be an electircal problem?
 
How do you know your battery still has energy?
Have you tried jump starting it?
Check your fuses, and wires going to the battery. There should be a fuse box in the engine compartment with some big fuses.

Explain this kill switch light. Does it normally blink?
In my car there is some sort of cheap little anti theft device that has a little chip you can take out so the car won't start. Someting like this could be the source of your problem.
The only thing I can think of ticking coming from the rear would be your fuel pump.
Is it one click, several clicks, or continuous clicking?
 
well when we boosted the car it wouldn't start so it can't be the battery.

no i didn't check the fuel pump yet because the car doesn't even turn over. there is no noise the car makes when i turn the key not even a clicking noise. I turn the key and it's dead silent

the clicking noise came from the side of the car, not the back. right where the safety belt is.
the light i just a cheap light that blinks which came with the car.

Recap
1)CAR is completely dead with nothing working on it at all. i can turn on the dome lights but if i try 2 at the same time it all turns off.
2)i tried boosting the car and it didn't work their was still no power, ie no head light would turn on nor the radio
3)tried push starting the car, you would hear the car trying to catch but it would never fully catch!
4)checked the fuses today they all seem good to me, and the main grounds are all hooked up
now where does this leave me?????dead battery dead alternator dead starter??? :cry:
 
power=dsm said:
well when we boosted the car it wouldn't start so it can't be the battery.

no i didn't check the fuel pump yet because the car doesn't even turn over. there is no noise the car makes when i turn the key not even a clicking noise. I turn the key and it's dead silent

^^^^^^I didn't mean to check it I just was thinking that was what the sound might be.
I am quite sure that is not your problem though.

the clicking noise came from the side of the car, not the back. right where the safety belt is.

^^^^^I can't think what this could be.

the light i just a cheap light that blinks which came with the car.

Recap
1)CAR is completely dead with nothing working on it at all. i can turn on the dome lights but if i try 2 at the same time it all turns off.
2)i tried boosting the car and it didn't work their was still no power, ie no head light would turn on nor the radio
3)tried push starting the car, you would hear the car trying to catch but it would never fully catch!
4)checked the fuses today they all seem good to me, and the main grounds are all hooked up
now where does this leave me?????dead battery dead alternator dead starter??? :cry:

This still sounds like a dead battery to me.
I had a lot of trouble getting a good connection on the stock positive terminal. Try again keep wiggling the cable untill you get a good connection. You could even turn on your headlights so you can watch them and see when you get a connection. If they don't light up you might have a bigger problem. Make sure you turn your lights off before you try to start it. Of course make sure your pos and neg terminals are right, make sure the other vehicle is running, and make sure all connections are good. You are also supposed to connect the negitive cable to the body of the car being jumpped, not the battery.
One thing I can say is the more descriptive you are the easier it is to help diagnose.
In your first post you appologise for the long post. When I have a problem sometimes my posts will be much longer. I will explain every detail I can think of, every sound, and any thing unusual that might help someone else try to figure out my problem.
 
ok i have/had the same problem. my battery is brand new. so its not that. i took my ecu out and the mpi relay and they checked out ok. when i put them back in and hooked everything back up i was still dead. i took my terminals off and put them back on and wiggeled the + terminal. got in and nothin but money. started up and the headlights came on a nd everything. stock terminals seem bad so im replacin them. there cheap so u might wanna start there.
 
i checked the voltage in the battery today and its at around 12v

when i got in my car, which i left sitting for 2 days, i was able to turn on my wipers and all the lights inside. Which i couldn't have done before. So i then attempted to start it but, it didn’t do anything and the dash started to make a ticking noise, and then nothing worked, no lights nothing and the noise went away.

If the starter were dead wouldn't a push start still start the car because you have the flywheel turning and the belts???
:(
 
power=dsm said:
i checked the voltage in the battery today and its at around 12v

Voltage doesn't tell half the story. You need to load test it to make sure it has enough amps. The battery can have full voltage but next to 0 amps. If you hook up a one amp test light it may light up as bright as on a full charge but if you turn on your headlights if it even has the amps to actuate the relay it will not fully light up the headlights.
The clicking you are hearing are probably relays, once they engage there are not enough amps to turn over the starter.
Take your battery out and take it to auto zone or somewhere else that will test and charge your battery for free.
I am going to bet you will take it in and it will have no juice, next have them charge it and test it again. You say you had it in acc for 1 hour so
1. Either you Had your stereo crancked up loud enough to drain it.
2. Your battery is on it's way out and didn't have much left in it.
Or a combination of the two.

if the battery test's out okay it is most likely a bad ground, or possiby pos conection.
Have you checked the terminals? There should be a ground wire that goes to the body close to the battery take it off and make sure it's not too badley corroded. If you are still having problems run another ground from the battery to the body to eliminate that possibility. If none of these work hit us back with a detailed description of what you did, how you did it and what if any thing has changed, or if you have noticed any thing else that might help.
Hope this helps
 
no i don't think it's the battery because i stated i tried push starting it, so that cancels out my battery and the starter. So when it didn’t start on a push start, that when i figure their is something wrong with the electrical!
 
Well I am glad you found the problem. I thought I would mention though that since you have a computerized fuel injected car it still needs a bit of electricity to run. If your battery is very dead you don't have enough electricity to run the ECU or to fire the plugs or fuel injectors, fuel pump ect. I don't know if you have tried jump starting a newer car and disconected the cables too soon and had it die but it can and will.
Any ways I don't want to rail on you too hard but it sounds to me like you are a bit of a newbie with the whole takin care of your own car thing, you should try to find some mechanicly inclined car people in your area and try to learn as much as you can. It deffinatly makes owning these things a lot more affordable than taking it into the shop every time theres a problem.
 
yoshimitsuspeed said:
You took out your ECU and a relay before closely inspecting your terminals. :laugh:
That's one heck of a diagnostic path.

yea actullyi took both cables off and tried working around them with a set of jumper cables from my other car. when that didnt work i put them back on and the car started back up. it died again doin the same thing so i took the ecu and relay out. now im pretty sure the positive terminal is crappin out so im buyin a set. :talon:
 
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