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420A 97 Eclipse DSM Cranking but not starting, Have tried almost everything!

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Dzxr300

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Oct 31, 2016
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Hello, I'm new here just looking for some answers. I recently bought a 1997 Eclipse 2.0L Automatic(I know, i know). The guy I got it from said he ran it on the freeway and ran out of gas so it turned off on him. he put gas into the tank but no luck in starting. (this is the story i got from this guy) So i put about a half tank of gas and still no start. I replaced the Fuel pump and still cranks but not starting. I also got a new fuel filter but havent got around to installing that. I read on a thread here almost about the same problem and he replaced the fuel pump and fuel filter and turned on.. luckly no luck with me. I have tried the spark test and i am getting spark. Not even with starting fluid sprayed into the intake. No start with starting fluid, could it be that the fuel filter is clogged or can it possibly be that the crank sensor or cam sensor has gone bad? or just not getting any fuel into the engine? Im about to give up on the car or just junk it but dont want to just yet. I also found a 1999 Spyder with a 2.4 4g64 engine in it. was considering swapping out the 2.0 for the 2.4 but im not so sure with the work that will have to be done to get it to sit right. Im trying to figure out if i can just fix the 97' if its something simple.. any help or links will help so much. Ive tried researching on here but find so much that its leads off topic. Please and thank you!
 
Which model is it? Turbo or non-turbo? Most likely it is something simple. However, that doesn't mean it is for sure a simple problem. Since you know for sure you're getting spark, do you know for sure that fuel is reaching your injectors? If not, it's time to check, BEFORE replacing the filter. If you're not getting fuel at the injectors, then replace the filter (even if you are getting fuel, replacing the filter is not a bad idea anyway).
 
Which model is it? Turbo or non-turbo? Most likely it is something simple. However, that doesn't mean it is for sure a simple problem. Since you know for sure you're getting spark, do you know for sure that fuel is reaching your injectors? If not, it's time to check, BEFORE replacing the filter. If you're not getting fuel at the injectors, then replace the filter (even if you are getting fuel, replacing the filter is not a bad idea anyway).

Thank you for replying! Im running out of patience with this car already, its a non turbo model, I'm most likely leaning towards the problem being something with the electrical or so since cranking it back to back for a few mins kills the battery completely. Im not so sure if its getting any fuel to the injectors and i wouldnt really know how to check that either unless maybe you can help me out in guiding me a bit on that.. im gonna be replacing the fuel filter tomorrow morning, i forgot to mention the spark plugs aren't wet when i pulled them out the last time i checked they were really dry and didnt have any smell of gas if not a faint smell of gas but barely any.. not even letting it turn over with starter fluid.. any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank you once again!
 
No problem ;) What I would do, is unplug your spark plugs and each fuel injector connector, and pull the fuel rail off with your injectors still attached. Then plug in one of the injectors. Have someone crank your car while you hold a bottle or something under the plugged in injector to catch any sprayed fuel. This will let you know if fuel is at least reaching the rail. You could also repeat this for each injector to see if they are all working. Also if the previous owner was kind of sketchy with his story, maybe get under the car to see if the fuel lines got pinched somehow.
 
If you don't get fuel after doing spyderdrifter's test, try first testing fuel pressure (if low the FPR may be leaking, or leaky fuel pump check valve, or clogged fuel filter). Next test the cam sensor (which tells PTU to fire injectors) - unbolt and turning it with key on should fire injectors (on the turbo it does, I assume the NT will too). Just make sure you put it back exactly in the same position when done. Next check the PTU (open up and check for leaking caps or burned components). Should you ever remove an injector (from rail) or fuel filter (ie. if you open up fuel system), make sure to relieve fuel pressure first or you will get 50psi of fuel spurting out so be careful (even many days after engine being turned off it still maintains pressure)!
 
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