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1g axle vs 2g axle for awd

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phillabaum03

phillabaum03

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Ok long story short guys. I traded a 16g for a awd 2g trans for my 98 auto gsx and its in the car now and im in the middle of putting the axles and such in and my problem is on the drivers side axle the 2 bolts that bolt it to the block are like 1/2 away from being lined up with the holes in the back of the block, and i've hit the axle, and i know its in all the way but still cant get the bolts lined up. Is it possible I got a 1g trans? Are the axles different? if so how? Anyone got any ideas??WTF
 
if I confused anyone whats the difference in the 1g drivers axle then a 2g? hope thats clear
 
Do you have the A/C bracket in place that goes between the block and the axle bracket?
 
Maybe you could snap a pic so everyone know what shaft you have/need...
 
Dsmx17 said:
you mean the carrier bearing on the HALF SHAFT wont line up?
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yeah man.

Cs4g63 Do you have the A/C bracket in place that goes between the block and the axle bracket? yeah its still there.

brryder Are you using m/t axles or a/t axles. They might be different. the cars auto and so are the axles, but thanks here.
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90-99 AWD front axles and 88-92 FWD front axles are all the same small size

FWDs got bigger thicker axles in 93

93 up FWDs would have to swap the differential to be able to use equal length axles

Small axle FWD cars can use a Quaife, RalliArt, Cusco or Kazz differential

Big axle FWD cars can only use a Quaife different


However, there is slight length difference between MT and AT front axles.
 
ok thanks. Any idea why mine wont line up to the threads in the block? I've tried like everything
 
grnchevyz said:
Your response to him was that the car was Auto and so are the axles......get M/T axles.
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why? the axles are stock and were bolted up then I replaced the tranny and now they wont fit? how would M/T axles help? Not being a dick, i appreciate the help!
 
Are you sure the tranny you got in the trade is in fact an AUTOMATIC transmission? About the only thing other than the axle not being in all the way would be that you got a MT instead of an AT. Lemme see if I can dig up some info on how to tell the difference.
 
1995-1999 TE Transmission Codes

RS Auto - F5MC1 (1990-1994 is F5M22)
RS Manual - F4AC1 (1990-1994 is F4A22)

GS Auto - F5MC1 (1990-1994 is F5M22)
GS Manual - F4AC1 (1990-1994 is F4A22)

GS-t Auto - F5M33 (Same as 1990-1994)
GS-t Manual - F4A33 (Same as 1990-1994)

GSX Auto - W5M33 (Same as 1990-1994)
GSX Manual - W4A33 (Same as 1990-1994)

Look for the identification tag on the transmission, make sure they BOTH are W5M33...if they are different, you need the axles to match. Otherwise, the axle is just not in far enough.

1G and 2G transmissions are in fact interchangeable as long as the numbers match.

Hope this helps.
 
The axle part isnt gunna make a differance lining up those holes. Its the half shaft. I dont know why you guys are argueing about axles when they dont have to do with his problem. He is trying to figure out why his mounting holes wont line up. not weather the axles fit or not. Pull out the shaft and make sure that little snap ring isnt holding you up from getting all the way in. Are you using a manual or auto tranny shaft?
 
I assure you the transmission is in fact an automatic. I don't think my torque converter would have fit a manual, and there arent any hook ups for the manual shift cables and such. Def an automatic. Still have no idea what the problem is though. Does anyone think I would run into any problems if I made a bracket to bolt the axle in place where it is right now? I can fab a bracket I just don't know is that will cause other problems since the axle is like 1/4" to far towards the outside of the car.


Are you guys sure the 95-96 transmissions are the same as the 97-99? The ONLY thing I can really think of is that I got a 95-96 transmission and is uses a shorter drivers side axle........
 
coryd said:
The axle part isnt gunna make a differance lining up those holes. Its the half shaft. I dont know why you guys are argueing about axles when they dont have to do with his problem. He is trying to figure out why his mounting holes wont line up. not weather the axles fit or not. Pull out the shaft and make sure that little snap ring isnt holding you up from getting all the way in. Are you using a manual or auto tranny shaft?
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I know we are talking about the half-shaft, however the OP called it "the axle" so not to confuse him I kept that terminology.

And yes 1990-1999 AWD Auto transmissions are the same and will work in both 1g and 2g cars with minor modification to be done.

As for your problem, now that we've determined the transmission is the right one, I agree with coryd, take the axle off again, and check the snap ring at the end of the half shaft, if it is on there, its just not in far enough. I woudln't fabricate anything as the 1/4" will make a drastic difference at the wheel level not to mention the damage potentially done internally.
 
me and my buddies just realized because the bolt holes for the torque converter were different and we believe this trans is from a NON anti lock brake car, whats the chances of this??
 
Ok, refer to post #16 again, ALL transmissions from 1990-1999 ARE interchangeable as long as they both are FWD or AWD. Anti-lock brakes or not, cruise control or not, AC or not, clear taillights or not...get my drift? ;)

If the torque converter bolts are NOT the same its not the right transmission for your purpose. You need to locate the identification tag and find out if they are the same or not otherwise you'll just beat your head against a wall over and over and over again.
 
95-96 autos used a diferent flexplate with the bolt holes out slightly further than the 96-99 auto tranies. I know this for a fact. It is not a 1g auto since they look significantly different. It is a 95-96 2g auto trany.

I understand you are saying that all the axles are the same but there is nothing else I can see curing the problem other than a differnt axle. The axle is in all the way and the trany is mounted to the engine correctly.
 
JFZERO ECLIPSE said:
I know for a fact that the intermediate shafts bracket that your working with MIGHT be the wrong one...

95-96 had 1 style of bracket
97-99 had its own heres a link to just look at the bracket....

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/298124-halfshaft-bracket.html

Just trying to help out
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ok so I just looked and I DO indeed have the right bracket! Its the intermediate shaft thats not lining up or what not. Keep guessing, thanks for the info tho man. You learn something new everyday! :thumb:
But its something else. Like i said it FIT fine and was bolted in THEN I replaced the tranny and now it dont. Its like its not going in all the way? idk guys
 
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