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Old 07-22-2008, 06:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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T-31 or P-trim turbine wheel?

Am looking at this 50-trim turbo for my Evo 1. Would be going for an internal wastegate and high pressure actuator. What I am wondering about is the turbine wheel type. There are 2 options: a Stage 3/T-31 wheel or a Stage 5/P-trim wheel. Surprisingly to me, the stage 3 wheel is more expensive. What would be the difference between these 2 turbine wheels?



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Old 07-22-2008, 06:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure the t31 is standard in most 50 trims and the p-trim is standard in turbos like the t67.
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IIRC, the P-trim wheel is pretty old tech, which might explain why there's the price differential.


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a t3 stage 3 turbine wheel is a turbonetics term for a t31 garrett wheel. Both are pretty much identical. The t3 stage 5 turbine wheel is like the garrett t350 turbine wheel. The p-trim is not a "stage 5" wheel.



I'm not sure why there is a stage5/p-trim option as if it's one wheel. The stage5 wheel not the same as a p-trim wheel. Call and ask for dimensions and then you'll know. Andy is very friendly an helpful.

The t3 stage 3 / t31 turbine is plenty for the 50-trim compressor. The stage 5 / t350 turbine would really guarrantee pushing the 50-trim to the outer limits of it's operating range. But rather laggy. A p-trim is way too bigg IMHO for the 50-trim. A waste of spool time for no more real gain up top with a smaller compressor like the 50-trim.


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The T31 stage III wheel would more correctly match the 50 trim compressor wheel. When matching a compressor wheel to an exhaust wheel, it is best to have no more than a 20% differential between the wheel diameters of the compressor wheel and exhaust wheels. And that is correct. the Stage 5 is NOT the same as a P-trim. For the response characteristics that you're looking for in the Evo, I'd use the T31 stage III or even O-trim.
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