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Well what do you guys think about these two turbos? I am doing a new full build on a 6 bolt and wanted to get into the 10's and I was going to get the new FP 3582HTA with the .82 A/R. But now i just saw a post about the s362 turbo and how people are saying the 35r is hyped up which yes i agree it is very hyped up. But how would these turbos compare if im looking to get into 10's and want something that will last me a while and i won't have to redo my setup a year after i finish it? I know the HTA is B.B. and the 362 isn't and I would expect that the HTA would outlast the 362 but I don't know. What do you guys think?

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If you read up there is no specific term from FP for their new HTA model 35r. So many people are referring to it as the "Hot Tight Ass" model 35r. If you do some quick investigating you can find out about the name relatively easily.
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Well what do you guys think about these two turbos? I am doing a new full build on a 6 bolt and wanted to get into the 10's and I was going to get the new FP 3582HTA with the .82 A/R. But now i just saw a post about the s362 turbo and how people are saying the 35r is hyped up which yes i agree it is very hyped up. But how would these turbos compare if im looking to get into 10's and want something that will last me a while and i won't have to redo my setup a year after i finish it? I know the HTA is B.B. and the 362 isn't and I would expect that the HTA would outlast the 362 but I don't know. What do you guys think?
Both are enough for your goals, spool on the HTA will be better, and both will last a long time unless you do something stupid.


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Ya i figured that the HTA would spool faster but i have read somewhere that the 362 has better torque than the 35r and still holds the same hp.
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There is an SRT4 that runs 10.5 on the S362 and he drives it on the street everyday.
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Well what do you guys think about these two turbos? I am doing a new full build on a 6 bolt and wanted to get into the 10's and I was going to get the new FP 3582HTA with the .82 A/R. But now i just saw a post about the s362 turbo and how people are saying the 35r is hyped up which yes i agree it is very hyped up. But how would these turbos compare if im looking to get into 10's and want something that will last me a while and i won't have to redo my setup a year after i finish it? I know the HTA is B.B. and the 362 isn't and I would expect that the HTA would outlast the 362 but I don't know. What do you guys think?
35r is not a bunch of hype.I dissagree.

The BW 362 is a good turbo as well.

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I am not saying that the 35r isnt what people say it is, I am just saying that I hear more about the 35r than the BW turbos around here
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They are just the more popular choice nowadays. You also hear more about ACT than Fidanza--it's just the way things are.


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I just ordered an s362, I chose it because I wanted something different, as well as it being rebuild-able. When the CHRA section goes on the 35r it's time for another snail.

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I just ordered an s362, I chose it because I wanted something different, as well as it being rebuild-able. When the CHRA section goes on the 35r it's time for another snail.
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spool on the HTA will be better
Spools faster then an S362 in which exhaust housing? The BW turbos are supposed to spool a bit quicker then other standard bearing turbos. My S362 is going in right now. I got it in the T3 .70AR flavor.

But I have never seen an actual comparison of spool on a S362 vs. a GT35R. If you have a link that shows an actual comparison, please share. But if I were to just guess, I'd guess that the spool for both of these turbos would be pretty similar.
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The only comparision that I have seen between the GT35R is with the S366. (not sure why). The S366 spools about the same as the GT35R and made more power (duh it is a bigger turbo) So that being said I would assume the S362 will spool quicker than the GT35R.

An SRT4 with the T3 .85a/r turbine housing and S362 spools around 4100-4300 rpms.
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That sounds a little more like what I'd expect. Any idea what the exhaust housings were on any of those turbos used in the comparison?
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We're in the process of swapping a GT35R in the FP bolt-on housing for a BW S362 in the .85 div. T3 hotside. We'll be sure to post results with logs when it's done. I'm expecting the 362 to spool at least as fast and gain lots and lots o' power.


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That sounds a little more like what I'd expect. Any idea what the exhaust housings were on any of those turbos used in the comparison?
The BW turbine was the T3 .85 a/r no idea on the GT35R
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Steve93 make sure you get those results up when you get that swap done. I am sure there are a bunch of people out there who would like to see how it compares to the 35r.
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From where you ordered it?
I ordered it from MAP performance. They were closest to me, and were very helpful. I also chose the 362 because it should make more power then the 35r and well, I'm just tired of everyone running 35's..

I'll be running about 30lbs daily, on pump and meth. Along with all the other mods to support ~600 ish hp, it should be a fun ride this summer.

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Awesome choice. Which exhaust side did you go with?
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Here's a couple shots of my 362 mounted up for the first time for those interested in seeing.


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