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dale187 11-02-2009 01:34 PM

Ebay XTD stage 3 clutch and flywheel
 
Well it's time for a clutch now something more meetier than the stock one. For a while i have alwys used a stock clutch. Well after my front mount and tranny install i went back to the track and was amazed the power the front mount made me and that it was just too much for stock clutches anymore.. I launched at 5250 and the clutched slipped all the way through 3rd and i ran a 13.50. So i'm thinking i should be running 13.10s and ###### making like 270 to the wheels. Crazy thing is when i get on my car from a 1st ger roll it never slips.. Only after i launch. But that sounds right like the clutch is heating up and getting soft and then slipping. But anyways i want a nice heavy duty clutch with still a decently soft peddle and i heard that they are pretty nice. I used one in my turbo civic and it held fine. Just wanted to know how they run in these cars. Let me know guys. Thanks!

habitatguy187 11-02-2009 01:50 PM

I've heard lots of bad things about using puck discs with springs. A couple guys on here who're putting down good HP swear by the xtd stage 4, which comes with an unsprung disc.

As far as the stage 1 and 2 I've read mostly bad reviews on them.

dale187 11-02-2009 01:52 PM

I might just go with that.. the unsprung is that a puck disk too?

FenixTX717 11-02-2009 02:24 PM

Personally I loved my Exedy stage 1 clutch kit (2100lbs). Held up just fine to around 350whp and never really slipped on me and I put over 35000 miles of abuse on it. If my goals weren't for much higher I'd throw another one of those in my car in a heart beat!

force it in 11-02-2009 02:49 PM

I'm using this XTD stage 4 clutch. [url=http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/XTD-STAGE-4-CLUTCH-KIT-ECLIPSE-TALON-LASER-TURBO_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem518db9b9a6QQitemZ350270110118QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories#ht_4311wt_1158]XTDŽ STAGE 4 CLUTCH KIT -ECLIPSE /TALON /LASER TURBO:eBay Motors (item 350270110118 end time Nov-24-09 19:36:07 PST)[/url] I have no complaints after 1500 miles of street use. The throw out bearing was steel sleeved so I just threw it away & used an OEM one. It chattered in stop & go L.A. traffic when it was new, but not so much after break- in. So far it's performing way better than the Fidanza 3.2 it replaced. [url]http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/240420-fidanza-clutch-thread-5.html#post151890981[/url]

bme91gsx 11-02-2009 05:20 PM

i blew a spring out of the disc at 550 miles on a stage 3 xtd..

habitatguy187 11-02-2009 05:26 PM

[QUOTE=dale187;152029260]I might just go with that.. the unsprung is that a puck disk too?[/QUOTE]

Yep, same as the one in the link on ForceItIn's post.

[QUOTE=FenixTX717;152029288]Personally I loved my Exedy stage 1 clutch kit (2100lbs). Held up just fine to around 350whp and never really slipped on me and I put over 35000 miles of abuse on it. If my goals weren't for much higher I'd throw another one of those in my car in a heart beat![/QUOTE]

That's what I have now, it's pretty decent. You have to remember the the OP has an awd, which will be a lot harder on a clutch than a fwd like you and I have.

coryd 11-02-2009 05:27 PM

unsprung puck disk are so hard on you drivetrain for dding

dsmfa9nutter 11-02-2009 05:43 PM

I run this clutch. I've got 4k daily driven miles on it and it's held 25psi out of an evoIII and no problems so far.

[url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/F1-RACING-STAGE-4-CLUTCH-KIT-89-99-MITSUBISHI-ECLIPSE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5d26797bfaQQitemZ400077454330QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories[/url]

habitatguy187 11-02-2009 07:18 PM

[QUOTE=coryd;152029411]unsprung puck disk are so hard on you drivetrain for dding[/QUOTE]

Yeah I've heard that, but the people who have the xtd stage 4 ALL say that it's not that bad after break-in. Maybe the PP isn't as harsh idk?

Anyway next clutch change I do I'll be dropping an xtd stage 4 in.

donniekak 11-02-2009 07:32 PM

[QUOTE=habitatguy187;152029511]Yeah I've heard that, but the people who have the xtd stage 4 ALL say that it's not that bad after break-in. Maybe the PP isn't as harsh idk?

Anyway next clutch change I do I'll be dropping an xtd stage 4 in.[/QUOTE]

I ran an xtd stage 4 in my galant vr4. The stage 4 comes with a different pressure plate, and an unsprung puck disk. I don't have any problems with an unsprung clutch in traffic. The clutch held 30+ psi from an hx40, without issue. People that expect stock engaugement on such a small clutch, holding 500ft/lbs, are going to keep burning up stock style disks, and pushing the crank out of the block with unneeded superheavy duty pressure plates.

whiteboyz 11-02-2009 08:16 PM

I was thinking about buying one of these but was unsure of he quality and how well it would hold up. didnt want to have to replace it a week later. but since everyone is having no problems i think i'll order me one. what is better to have sprung or unsprung ? thanks

boosteclipse 11-02-2009 09:56 PM

I know a xtd stage 2 was junk on my gst, but a stage 3 may be fine.

ziggo0 11-02-2009 10:14 PM

May as well get the Stage 4...it's only 170$...170$ for a clutch is nothing when proven brand names go for 350+

weegee411 11-02-2009 10:33 PM

I have a 6 puck XTD stage 3. Its been on for a good 6k miles and I haven't had it slip once and I run 22 psi on a 14b turbo

donniekak 11-03-2009 07:26 AM

[QUOTE=ziggo0;152029669]May as well get the Stage 4...it's only 170$...170$ for a clutch is nothing when proven brand names go for 350+[/QUOTE]

If you do a search, you'll find they break and explode as much as the cheapies.

inneed4dsm 11-03-2009 02:31 PM

i have an xtd stage 3 no problems yet but just so you know and ill speak for the stage 3 atleast when i say this... its a oem pressure plate spray painted red and a 6 puck sprung disc

donniekak 11-03-2009 02:43 PM

[QUOTE=inneed4dsm;152030163]i have an xtd stage 3 no problems yet but just so you know and ill speak for the stage 3 atleast when i say this... its a oem pressure plate spray painted red and a 6 puck sprung disc[/QUOTE]

Yes it is. But, the stage 4 is a different presure plate. The pedal pressure is much heavier than stock with it.

Musclebishi 11-03-2009 05:17 PM

I have a stage 4 with the sprung disc and it's been holding flawlessly. I have made several 12 second passes and it still performs like new. The engagment is little hard but you'll get use to it. I would recomment this stage if you're looking for a cheap performance clutch that is proven.

crash89 11-03-2009 05:52 PM

I bought one of the xtd stage 3s and blew a spring out around 600 miles..


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