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LS1 V8 powered Talon ,Anyone done this?


Has anyone placed an LS1 or LQ series v8 in a dsm? These engines are compact,light and can make 400hp cheaply without a turbo.
Check out this WRX with the same setup.YouTube - First Ever LSX powered WRX dyno. Stock LQ4 6.0 with Cam.....Pre-turbo setup
JUST A THOUGHT thats all.


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Waiting for the flaming to commence Saw some guys in abu dhabi put a ls1 in a evo8 but never in a eclipse all that heat must fry your brain????
there is also a guy with a 440 in a 3kgt < tube chassis drag car
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I remember seeing a video awhile back that had a evo7and up with a ls1 in it. I believe there is a red 2g sporting a small block v8. I can be done.
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Ya i know i'm waiting on the flamming as well , i know its comming.
I'm a hard core DSMer but love doing wild new things and like i said it's just a thought. Soo let me have it

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I would love to do this, but I don't have the pockets for it.

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I wonder how the shear physics of it would work. Could the engine bay even accommodate a V8? Even then you'd probably have to mount it longitudinally to fit a trans, but if there was enough room, hell, that'd be a nice torque upgrade! I'd do it!


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I would love to do this, but I don't have the pockets for it.

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It wouldn't have been too hard to put an LSX in Black Betty. Did that ever sell?


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Not sure i can't believe we haven't seen one yet ,these engines seem to be making it into a number of projects like 240's, RX7's, Miatas, hell even WRX's.
JUST A MAtter of Time.
The guy on the video utilized the LQ4 iron block truck engine(6.0L) but for weight purposes i would go with the All alluminum LS1 unless you plan on high boost then the LQ4 or LQ9 would be better.

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I think its a waste of time 400hp is not that much we can make that out a 4 banger with not alot of work and probably half the cost of rigging a v8 in there. If u want a muscle car buy one do not hack apart a perfectly good dsm Just my opinion


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I saw pics of a V8 in a first gen DSM. I can't remember where but it has been done. It wasn't an LS engine but it was a small block Chevy V8.


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What a waste. Sounds like another v8 fanboy...
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anything is possible if you have deep enough pockets
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for less money and less of a headache. you could make a 4g63t have 400awhp. dont see why you would want to do the swap in a dsm.
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There's a red 2g from Puerto Rico (I believe) that a 350 RWD in it. Look it up on youtube.

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I got photos of this at a drag strip a while back.



I should have taken a few pictures of the inside of the car. The driver's side foot well was barely big enough to fit 2 pedals. It has twin rear mounted turbos tucked inside a custom box where the back seats used to be. "They were from a diesel pickup. The turbos are some brand that begins with an 'H'."

He had it dyno'd. 850hp to the wheels and 1150hp crank est.
Oh, and FYI, it's street legal.


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I saw pics of a V8 in a first gen DSM. I can't remember where but it has been done. It wasn't an LS engine but it was a small block Chevy V8.
I remember this too. I think it was in the craigslist thread.


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I agree less headache yes but for less money um not sure about that, It might equal out $$$ Maybe so Maybe not . I havn't done it so i couldn't tell you. Buliding a 4g63 isn't cheap especially when you start getting into BB turbo's and custom shearer manifolds ,Shep Tranny's and what not. Thats if you want a good reliable high powered 4g motor. And i'm not a V8 fanboy I'm a HorsePower fanboy.
And i mentioned 400hp as just an avg number , Thats just N/A not boosted.
Backed by a t56 tranny would be a deadly combo.
Not sure how the stock rear end would hold up tho.
HMMMMM All good questions.
Don't get your panties in a wad remember it was just a thought

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Is that just a wrx made to look like an STI? because if its an STI the guy did all that work and for the same amount of money he cold of build the boxer. If your going to put a v8 in a car like that or a DSM why not go all out?? I just think that DSMs are not very good platforms for swaps, it requires a lot of fab and would be to much weight up front with a short wheelbase. S2000s and RX7s are v8 swaps that make sense.

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Good point But how much does a 4g63 weight and how much does a all alluminum ls1 weight?

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