300awhp+ on stock clutch

[freakynipples6]

My friend has a 95 TSI and it has around 300HP to the wheels and he thinks the stock clutch will handle it fine. Can you guys please back me up and tell him that his stock clutch is going to blow up very very very soon!

 

[1993eclipseGS]

He needs an aftermarket clutch definatly. His clutch may last for alittle while but soon it is going to start slipping and be junk.

 

[joemathews]

It depends on how he drives the car, particularly on launches. If he launches the car a lot, the stock clutch could die in a few weeks.

I'm running an Evo 16g at 18 psi, and have had no problems with the stock clutch. Then again, I don't drive the car very hard and only have about 1500 miles since the turbo install.

 

[tim_korn_99]

I've been running the EVOIII for about 6k miles on my stock clutch. You can look at my mods, i should be close to 300hp @ 20psi. The stock clutch is holding up just fine. I've been to the track a couple times with it, and i play around on the street with it. The only thing that i think will KILL the stock clutch is repeated launching. I can launch at 5000 and slip it out just fine, but it does heat it up. If i were to do it again without letting it cool for a while, im sure it would roast it.
It all depends on how you drive it.
-Tim

 

[Sourpatch]

That clutch is gonna last a few hard launch's then it gonna call it a day just like my stock one did :thumbdown

 

[desolateboosted]

If that clutch sees a lot of slipping it will die soon. If there is no slippage there is not a lot of wearing out on the disk so it will last longer. The only thing is if you made more power/torque than it can hold/clamp then it'll slip no matter what.

 

[ACM]

It all depends on how hard you launch. The harder you launch the 'stronger' the clutch has to be. If you baby it off the line a stock clutch will be fine.

Charles

 

[Red 2g GSX]

I have a 16g @ 13psi and 3inch ex. and the clutch wont hold when im at the track. I now have a ACT 2600 so i shouldnt have any more problems

 

[Royalty]

would a trans cooler help the life of the cluthc?

 

[Sean485]

Trans cooler on a MT would help cool the fluid inside the trans and maybe save a bit on the sychros and bearings, but the clutch is a dry disk inside the bellhousing, no fluid to cool

Like stated above, assuming he doesn't launch it, it will "last" for a while, but he may be loosing acceleration if the clutch is slipping when he gets to the peak of the powerband. I would put a new clutch at the top of his "mods to do" list if I were him so he isn't stranded when it does eventually give out since it will, as it always does, occur at the worst possible time if he isn't prepared for it

 

[tsi_daggie]

how long u think a stock clutch would hold with a stock 90 awd, with rare 3500 launches and occasional racing, but mainly a tid bit aggressive daily driving?

dont mean to take over the thread, but it seemed like the appropriate place.

 

[tim_korn_99]

how long u think a stock clutch would hold with a stock 90 awd, with rare 3500 launches and occasional racing, but mainly a tid bit aggressive daily driving?

dont mean to take over the thread, but it seemed like the appropriate place.

Do you understand how impossible that question would be to answer? There are SOO many factors that could change things.. No one on here knows how you drive a 5 speed, so there's just no accurate answer for that question. I mean, is it a BRAND new clutch? Or does it have 100,000 miles on it?
Some people could burn up a stock clutch with a FWD in a couple weeks, while others could make it last in an AWD for a year or two.
-Tim

 

[spades_gsx]

Do you understand how impossible that question would be to answer? There are SOO many factors that could change things.. No one on here knows how you drive a 5 speed, so there's just no accurate answer for that question. I mean, is it a BRAND new clutch? Or does it have 100,000 miles on it?
Some people could burn up a stock clutch with a FWD in a couple weeks, while others could make it last in an AWD for a year or two.
-Tim

agreed! i have had my 97 gsx for a little over a year and ahalf the clutch is just now giving me signs of wear. i do the occasional launch, usual highway runs and such. I have basic bolt ons with the boost turned up a bit, and it has held fine for now. going to replace with sbr 3500 in about two weeks.

 

[Defiant]

If you drive like a gibbon in rut, you can destroy any clutch in a day. In fact, ClutchMasters' business plan actually counts on gibbon traffic to carry the overhead of their entire advertising campaign.

And a stock clutch can last 100,000 and even more miles. If all you're doing with it is clamping, the wear is very minimal. If you're trying to be John Force, any clutch is going to be quickly worn out.

 

[tsi_daggie]

true true true true

it would be brand new stock clutch. i guess i will just have to take it easy on her then until i can get an aftermarket clutch and flywheel.

 

[marcmsj]

i don't see why people can't just keep driving on their stock clutch and then upgrade when/if it starts slipping.. it's that simple.

 

[ucancallmedebo]

a good question would be how much TQ the stock clutch can handle fully engauged,clamped, and not overheated and in good shape. Say like max holding power from a roll. We all know that the stock will get smoked from a launch or heavy slipping between shifts becuse of its inability to handle the heat. In an AWD in first the TQ on the clutch is huge, and if it dos'nt slip in first then chances are it will hold the power easier in higher gears. If you stayed off the gas untill second the stock should last a while with 300hp.

 

[Sean485]

i don't see why people can't just keep driving on their stock clutch and then upgrade when/if it starts slipping.. it's that simple.

You can do that... assuming you dont have a job that requires you to be on time every day or a backup car. But some people need thier cars for daily transport and if they dont replace the clutch when they have the chance they may be walking to work since it will go out when you dont have the time/money/tools to replace it so its good insurance to replace it before it goes out when you know your pushing the limits of the stocker.

 

[marcmsj]

when my clutch started slipping, i still put 1,200 miles on it. it's not like you're gonna be fine one day and then stranded the next. if you notice it slipping and you ease off on the driving, you can still get miles out of it...

 

[tsi_daggie]

i don't see why people can't just keep driving on their stock clutch and then upgrade when/if it starts slipping.. it's that simple.

indeed it is. but i had a aftermarket centerforce clutch but the "mechanic" i had put it in didnt machine the flywheel and it ate the clutch. and i currently only have the money for a stocker. i will upgrade to a aftermarket once it goes out but that is a later problem.

 

[Sean485]

Sometimes you can get more miles out of a slipping clutch, sometimes you cant. My friend had an escort that he noticed starting to slip as he was coming home from work, 10 miles later he had to stop and let the clutch cool down before he could go again, then after it cooled down he got another 10 miles out of it and that was it, just highway cruising it only got 20 more miles out of it.

You never know how long you can limp with a broken part, and if the clutch is slipping and you keep driving it you will warp the flywheel/pressure plate.

 

[jetdriven]

my new stock clutch lasted 3 launches at 5500 RPM on the street. A month later I got two more at the track about 15 mins apart. I can still drive it and roll into the gas pretty good, but if I try to shift it fast it just goes to about 6,000 and stays there. its toast. this on an awd 14B with 15 PSI, no less. E316G will finish it. but if driven nicely it would last a long time.

 

[AL92]

I am not sure if clutch in my car is stock.The pedal pressure is pretty high.The clutch can handle up to 14psi fairly low rpm launches.But up the boost or up the rpm and its slip city!!
I think at 14psi my 50 trim is maybe putting out around the 300whp mark.I had problems with the stock clutch with my 14b at 18psi or so.So I have to say the stock clutches are junk for much more than stock power levels.