So I got a deal on a T-28 that I just couldn't pass up. $125 shipped. Think it'll be my turbo of choice for a good while and gonna see just how far I can push it (hopefully way past the 11.82 posted on the FP website, being that it's been there for a long time now). On the exhaust side, it has 9 blades, it's unported, and well, that's about all I know to tell. Is there any identifying marks to tell where it came from maybe? Not sure what actuator it has. Just paid for it last night and it got shipped out today.
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So I got a deal on a T-28 that I just couldn't pass up. $125 shipped. Think it'll be my turbo of choice for a good while and gonna see just how far I can push it (hopefully way past the 11.82 posted on the FP website, being that it's been there for a long time now). On the exhaust side, it has 9 blades, it's unported, and well, that's about all I know to tell. Is there any identifying marks to tell where it came from maybe? Not sure what actuator it has. Just paid for it last night and it got shipped out today.
Posting a picture when you receive it (or from the for-sale ad) will help. There are different versions of the FP T28, so it may take some research.
If you can best that 11.82, I'll be impressed for sure.
If it's an FP T28 it will have an FP logo on it. Also the older FP T28/28 has 10 exhaust blades and the newer FP big28 has 9 exhaust blades. I am also going to try and best that time with my FP big28.
If it's an FP T28 it will have an FP logo on it. Also the older FP T28/28 has 10 exhaust blades and the newer FP big28 has 9 exhaust blades. I am also going to try and best that time with my FP big28.
Ah, you have a better memory than me. I second this information now that I've been reminded of it. The FP logo is engraved on the top of the turbine housing, near the inlet.
Also, I ran my FP BigT28 at 25psi and 19* up top on meth. Pretty fun/insane hit of torque, but I wouldn't call it a mid 11 second car. It's going to be difficult to best the 11 second run, props to whoever does it. Oh, also I ran FPs 17psi actuator, which I highly recommend.
Also I haven't really seen anyone with a BUILT setup running one of these turbos. Maybe some injectors, pump, and tiddlywinks here and there. Lol. Guess we'll see how my project turns out.
Also wondering if the Holset actuator mod would work on this turbo. Being that I'll have a T-25 laying around with an actuator I can hack up and see Holset actuators on ebay going for around $30-$35ish.
From the pictures I do not think it's an FP Big28, I do not see FP logo or the white ( I think it was white) strip on one of the exhaust blades. Anyway my set up is, FP Big28, fp2 cams, walbro 255, dsmlink and will be running E85. I see in your profile that you have a spec 3 clutch and fidanza flywheel, hows that setup working for you? I went with the exact same set up but still putting the car together.
It's a direct bolt on, requires no mods. The stock actuator does not hold boost well, when I have mine set to 20 psi, it'll drop down to 17 psi by redline. Good info on the link below, I think the best bet will to run external wastegate.
The turbo used can be found for about $150-$350, new is a bit steep, $832 from FP. I bought mine used, had I been shopping for a new turbo I would have went a different route.
Anyway, I'm sorry, but to answer the OP's original question, I know that FP sells one and extreme psi has a garrett t28. I think turbocharger.com sells the killer t28. Here are some links.
Ignore my mod list right now. That was my last dsm and the one in the little picture. Car I have now is completely stock (for now) other than a used K&N filter. The Spec clutch has worked out pretty good for me though but may with a 4 puck this go around when I convert it to awd.
As for the turbo, don't think I'd really want a big ole FP logo on it. How many T-25's do ya see with that on there? Um, kinda gives away that you don't have a stock turbo with that logo on there. Also, I'm seriously doubting that anyone, or at least not many, have clipped their T-28's and when I get my car built up a lil, I may just have that done to this one. Wondering what the horsepower rating is on the 9 blade turbo is though. Have read that the old T-28 has 10 blades.
Still debating on what route I'm gonna go for the wastegate. Thanks for the link above. Have to read it when I have time and not having to get ready for work.
My 9 blade FP Big T28 did NOT have the FP logo stamped on it...good turbo though. I ran it at 17 lbs after the build I did over the summer and it was a beast combined with a set of 272/264 Deltas.
I'm seeing a little dampness on the heat shield behind the turbine wheel as well as the turbine fins themselves. I'd get this turbo rebuilt before you push it to an 11.xx pass or you could be smoking your way down the track.
For the price you paid it's nothing more than piece of mind to have the turbo rebuilt.
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~Justin~ '92 TSi FWD, '93 TSi AWD, '97 Eclipse GS
I had a bigt28 on my galant vr4 with every supporting mod there is, for a short time. I also had a small 16g, big 16g, evo3 16g, 14b, gt35r, hx40, all on the same setup. The big t28 was exactly like having the small 16g on the car. I also had the 17 lb actuator. Of all the small frame turbo's i've run, nothing compares to the evo 3. The hx40 in a bolt on housing, was a better turbo for my needs than the t3 35r.
yes, i agree with usmx141. you should send him your turbo and he will take good care of it. i am still debating if i wanna send him my 7blade hx35 before i bolt it on... even though it has NOTHING wrong with it... just for that peace of mind.
I'll check it out when it gets here. 1st thing I have to do is drill out a broken manifold bolt (yay!!!). I'll probably slap it on and drive it as is for awhile. If I get to the point of wanting to clip it (and I'm sure I will), that's the point at which I'd send it in for a rebuild....if it's not needed beforehand.
Anyone know if HRC still makes the upgraded wastegates? I use to see them on their website years ago but now I can't find it. Unless they build them but don't list them.
I have a brand new 17 psi actuator from FP if you're looking for one. Let me know.
I'll be looking for an upgraded wastegate alright. Just need to get the money 1st and my job is killing me right now in pay I'll keep ya in mind though. Depends on what you're asking for though.
If I get to the point of wanting to clip it (and I'm sure I will), that's the point at which I'd send it in for a rebuild....if it's not needed beforehand.
Clipping is not needed for that turbine to reach it's full potential. The compressor itself will only generate 36-37lb/min at peak, so the turbine isn't the restriction. You'd just be wasting your money.
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~Justin~ '92 TSi FWD, '93 TSi AWD, '97 Eclipse GS
For shits and giggles, heres my old GST w/ FP Big T28 before I parked and redid the engine bay, including a 7 bolt rebuild. I guess the numbers were ok but it may have been all the factors I pointed out on the YouTube info that explained the low numbers.
Shifted at 6K, I was scared of blowing it up since it had 180K miles on the clock. haha
Mods at the time:
Ebay filter, Thermal Catback, hard UICP w/ 1G bov, MBC at 15 psi
^^^Yeah, you I guess if you just bought it the novelty is still fairly new. I ran one for 8 years and pulled 40 lb/min out of one on a bone chilling day, and right around 350 w.h.p. (dsmlink estimated). A clip might not be a bad idea, the turbine backpressure can really rob engine power when trying to run boost levels above 25 psi. Overall, not worth it in my opinion unless your trying to set a record.
Well, I just don't see the fun in it if I'm not trying to set a record. Have to have SOME kinda goal to work towards ya know? I know most people do supporting mods and maybe overdo it and plan to move up a size turbo. I mean really, who TOTALLY builds cars on small turbos and plans to keep it a small turbo???
I'll eventually upgrade but it'll be a long time. Kinda like Kiggly with his 16g that ran really good times. Everyone's always good at saying this can't be done and that can't be done. And someone always comes along to knock them off their high horse ya know? Just like the V8 guys who underestimate us Dsm'ers. I got outta the scene for a bit and bought a Mustang but it wasn't any fun cause everyone EXPECTED me to be fast....even though it wasn't. I love to be underestimated and prove people wrong. This turbo would be no exception.
As far as clipping it goes, I guess I'll have to research the issue on that or talk to some really knowledgeable people on that issue before I make any stupid decisions. Turbo is suppose to be here on Monday. Can't wait. Wondering if it'd be okay to run on stock injectors, stock pump, and low boost levels until I can upgrade those goodies. Hmmm....
You should listen to pboglio. I had a big t28 on a fully setup car. The car was setup to max out a large turbo, gt35r, hx40. Using an external wastegate set to not open on e85, the t28 was not as good of a performer as a evo3 on my talon with stock exhaust, stock cams, stock intercooler, stock everything, except pump, injectors and a chip, on e85 at 25 psi.
Not saying I'll be able to break all the rules and do things that others haven't been able to succeed with, but I'll for damn sure give it my best shot.
Not saying I'll be able to break all the rules and do things that others haven't been able to succeed with, but I'll for damn sure give it my best shot.
I'm not downing the t28, or you for wanting to run it. Just saying it's not a tear up the strip turbo. When i had one on my vr4 it was a very fun street setup. It was almost like not having a turbo 4 cylinder, but a small v8. That thing spooled super fast.
I'll keep ya in mind though. Depends on what you're asking for though.
