Wow, why is your car torque-steering like that on the rollers? Did they not strap it down good or something? Not bad numbers for being close to stock. Did the butt dyno feel any difference?

Yeah, the first pull they jumped the rollers. It's not tightened very good in that one. Yes, the butt dyno did feel the difference......

IM still pretty new to the DSM world but I though our cars had stock 210?? I know proably stupid statement or what ever but just curious.

kilries said:

IM still pretty new to the DSM world but I though our cars had stock 210?? I know proably stupid statement or what ever but just curious.

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Ya ur right, they do have 210 hp stock. So your car is crap :laugh: . Just kiddin. The reason for the difference is because when they tell you the factory hp they are giving you the hp rating at the flywheel on the motor. When you run your car on a wheel dyno you are getting the hp you are making at the wheels ie the actual hp you are putting to the ground. When the hp is measured at the wheels there is always drive train loss ie it takes power to turn the transmission, driveshafts, wheels etc. Im not exactly sure what the % loss in a fwd car is but I wopuld say atleast 10% so that would mean you are making about 220 hp or so at the flywheel, & the same goes for torque. Hope this makes sense.

Nice work. I layed down some similar #'s last year with my car. My graph is in my gallery.

im thinking about buying the obx intercooler and i was just wonderin if the install was pretty easy? Did everything fit like a glove? The reason why i ask is that i want an intercooler that i can just bolt up because i dont really have the resources to fabricate my own piping and stuff.

^^^if you can cut pipe with a hacksaw you can mock them up and then put lines where they need to be welded and take the pipe to a muffler shop.

was that dyno pull on the T25 with stock boost? if so those are pretty good numbers for just that little done.

XxSiRhCy6PxX said:

im thinking about buying the obx intercooler and i was just wonderin if the install was pretty easy? Did everything fit like a glove? The reason why i ask is that i want an intercooler that i can just bolt up because i dont really have the resources to fabricate my own piping and stuff.

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the install itself was pretty simple, however they didnt send one of the couplers so he had to buy that extra, then it does now come with with upper intercooler piping so you will have to get that or else the stock piping will just blow off from hard pipes even with stock boost...thats another $140 from ebay depending on what kind you get. also the core itself bolted on the car kind of crooked and now he has straighten it somehow. install itself was not too hard.

Thomas91169 said:

^^^if you can cut pipe with a hacksaw you can mock them up and then put lines where they need to be welded and take the pipe to a muffler shop.

was that dyno pull on the T25 with stock boost? if so those are pretty good numbers for just that little done.

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yeah stock turbo, stock boost...only mods are the ones that are listed.

Is there a point to dynoing? This says nothing about the flow characteristics of the FMIC, all the "info" gained from this is moot.

I could replace the stock SMIC with a radaitor and see gains just as good. The stock turbo really cannot be used as a good judge for any sort of testing like this because it is just not capable of pumping out enough air.

A radiator..... please dont give them any idea's and i really hope your not serious.

I think this was an awsome tests because it proves you can gain a substantial amount of power from just addin ga largers core, most likely it was becuase of the hard piping tho.

How many miles on the car?
and
These are all the mods he has??
ebay turbo intake, obx fmic, hard intercooler piping, greddy type s bov, 10.2mm wires.

67k's and yes thats all the mods.

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Is there a point to dynoing? This says nothing about the flow characteristics of the FMIC, all the "info" gained from this is moot.

I could replace the stock SMIC with a radaitor and see gains just as good. The stock turbo really cannot be used as a good judge for any sort of testing like this because it is just not capable of pumping out enough air.

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the whole point of this thread was to show how much power gain you would get if u put on the fmic on a pretty much stock car. no duh you will gain more with different turbo. and u gonna replace your smic with radiator and see same gains? right.

sounds like you are getting compressor surge at lower boost. might wanna adjust your bov.

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the whole point of this thread was to show how much power gain you would get if u put on the fmic on a pretty much stock car.

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so any numbers from before the FMIC install

RamenPride said:

so any numbers from before the FMIC install

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stock numbers were 182hp and 204tourque

98turbo said:

the whole point of this thread was to show how much power gain you would get if u put on the fmic on a pretty much stock car. no duh you will gain more with different turbo. and u gonna replace your smic with radiator and see same gains? right.

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Sarcasm escapes you.

Tallen said:

Sarcasm escapes you.

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The reason for your sarcastic ego escapes us all. There’s no need for it.

Thanks, for the dyno proven post krlyuzh. Although posting the before and after dyno results would have been nice we will just take your word on the pre OBX results. This is another post that helps DYNO (not theory leaning this way and that) confirm not only for OBX FMIC but FMIC in general as a pre-turbo upgrade on a 2G won't hinder performance even at stock boost levels. In a lot of posts covering the t25 with FMIC concept people say that it only helps if your running out of your turbo’s efficiency range. For those people have at it I can see shaft play in there future, but at least for me this answers the question I was wondering how it would do within its efficiency range. I now feel more comfortable doing the FMIC upgrade pre-turbo upgrade. I know there are variables in this equation such as quality of the intercoolers cooling design (flow rates) but it still helps.