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Old 07-09-2002, 01:10 PM   #1 (permalink)
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6 bolt vs. 7 bolt [merged] 6bolt 7bolt 6-bolt 7-bolt six bolt seven bolt

All 6 bolt vs. 7 bolt threads are merged here.
How do I tell if I have a 6 bolt or a 7 bolt?
Will x part from a 6 bolt fit a 7 bolt?
Will x part from a 7 bolt fit a 6 bolt?
Which one is better?
How do I swap my x bolt for an x bolt?


What is the difference between 6-bolt and 7-bolt engines (aside from the obvious - 6 vs. 7 bolts connecting the flywheel )

Is there an advantage over either of the two engines?

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Old 07-09-2002, 01:25 PM   #2 (permalink)
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All the exact differences are listed at dsm.org... The main difference is the rods in the 6 bolt motors are bigger and stronger than that of a 7 bolt motor. They usually can hold an extra 30 more wheel hp.


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Old 07-09-2002, 01:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Which years come with 6-bolt engines?
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Old 07-09-2002, 02:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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All 90-5/92 turbo dsm's and the g vr4


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Old 08-07-2002, 07:59 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Angry 6-Bolt 7-Bolt I'm Confused

I was under the impression that 6-bolts were 1G's and 7-bolts were 2G's.
I just read somewhere that there were 1G 7-Bolts. Confirm, or does this guy just not know what he's talking about ### I sure don't?
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Old 08-07-2002, 08:10 PM   #6 (permalink)
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90-early 92 used 6bolts... late 92-99 used 7bolts. Starting at some point in 95 DSMs started using 4g63s that were manufactured in the states... & this is one of the theories behind crankwalk.


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Old 08-07-2002, 08:39 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks that's all I needed to know.
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Old 08-27-2002, 03:03 PM   #8 (permalink)
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6 bolt block, 7 bolt head

i am looking for a new block for my 93 and i have found some 6 bolt blocks for good prices, but i don't know if they will fit on my car.
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Old 08-27-2002, 03:27 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Why would you have a 2G head on a 1G? A 6 bolt is a 1G motor.
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Old 08-27-2002, 03:31 PM   #10 (permalink)
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well if u look at my name it says 93laserR. a 93 laser has a 7 bolt also. i want to put a 90-92 6 bolt block on my 93 head.
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Old 08-27-2002, 03:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Why would you have a 2G head on a 1G? A 6 bolt is a 1G motor.
Well they started putting 7-bolts after april/may 92.. Yes you can have a 7bolt head on a 6-bolt block. That's what my setup will be.


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Old 08-27-2002, 03:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
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90-94 DSM's where 1G 6 bolt motors.
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Old 08-27-2002, 03:37 PM   #13 (permalink)
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thank u. that was alot better than what 97getturbo said.
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Old 08-27-2002, 03:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I know about DSM's having 7 bolt motors in 93-94, but I'm sorry I assumed you had a 6 bolt.
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is there anything i would need to do or would it bolt right on like it was a 7 bolt. like would it work with my tranny and everything else.
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Old 08-27-2002, 03:49 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I belive you have to swap plugs 1 and 4 and 2 and 3. You still have a 1G coil pack so that may not be neccesary. Call www.magnusmotorsports.com and ask them they can tell you for sure.


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Old 08-27-2002, 11:14 PM   #17 (permalink)
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90-94 motors were not 6 bolt motors... As someome said above, only 90-92 were 6 bolt, they switched over to 7 bolt for the 93 and above models... however, to answer your original question, yes, that setup will work fine...


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Old 08-27-2002, 11:22 PM   #18 (permalink)
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90-94 motors were not 6 bolt motors... As someome said above, only 90-92 were 6 bolt, they switched over to 7 bolt for the 93 and above models... however, to answer your original question, yes, that setup will work fine...
6bolt until 92.5 actually, 92.5+ are 7 bolt.
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6 bolt or 7 bolt?

what is the difference between a 6 and 7 bolt and which is better. oh and what do i have on my car its a '90 talon nt fwd???
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If you don't have a turbo car it doesn't matter. if yo have a 90 N/T. You either have 6-bolt N/T 2.0 or a 1.8 motor


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6-bolt block

how much does it cost for a 6-bolt block and how much is it to get put in.
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Old 10-25-2002, 05:24 AM   #22 (permalink)
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The price varies alot. From 500-1500. Check out DSMtrader or look into JDM engines.

The price for a swap into a 2g cost around 1100 plus another 500 or so for parts you need that are not compatible.
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Old 10-30-2002, 06:07 PM   #23 (permalink)
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6 bolt vs. 7 bolt motors

Hey, I have a question about the difference between the 6 bolt and 7 bolt motors. I understand the 6 bolts are stronger (stronger rods i believe?), but at what point (in relation to horsepower/1320 times) does that make a difference? Like is a 7 bolt able to handle, say, 300hp, capable of doing 12/13s? The reason I ask is because i found a 93 talon turbo in the classifieds. Im not really aiming for much more than the stage 1 setup, at least not for now. Thanks guys.


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Old 10-30-2002, 08:03 PM   #24 (permalink)
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If you are looking for 12/13s car, the 7 bolt motor should be no problem at all.
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