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Old 02-18-2012, 05:38 PM Show Printable Version Show Printable Version   Email this Post to a Friend Email this Post      #1 (permalink)
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Spark plugs don't fit


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This is my first post as you can see, this forum has helped me a lot but this time i didn't get any luck with the search option... the car is 95 gst and i bought new spark plugs for it (first time) i read that the ngk bpr6es is my best choise since i don't have any mods yet so i bought those but they don't fit they are too thick ...
this is exactly what i got BPR6ES11 - NGK Spark Plug (4824) at www.carsparkplugs.com so what's up with this plugs???



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Yeah take them back you need those with a 5/8 size hex, thats the skinny ones. Next time tell them what car you buyin them for so you will get the correct ones

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Seems like its a different part number from the actual NGK website. http://ngksparkplugs.com/part_finder...uv/results.asp

^^^Oops that didn't work.....NGK Spark Plugs USA

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Wrong ones. Drop the "11".

BPR6ES - NGK Spark Plug (7822) at www.carsparkplugs.com


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You can use the smaller hex plugs but it's not necessary. I think you mean the spark plug wrench doesn't fit? Not all of them do if you're using a 13/16 socket which is what a bpr6es would required. bpr6es-11 would also require it. It's the wrong plug not because of size but because of the electrode and it's associated gap. that's a 4g63 NT plug. BPR6ES works just fine.


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oh ok i'll just change them then no big deal... i thought there was only one standard size...
thanks for the fast replies...

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I am also looking to replace my plugs and I am looking to get the BPR6ES that everybody on here recommends, but when I do a model search on the NGK website those are not an option. Also when I am on the autozone website and have my make and model selected it says that part will not fit my car.

I get three plug options from the NGK website

NGK IX iridium 6637 BPR6EIX
NGK GP platinum 7084 BPR6EGP
NGK Multi-ground plug 6757 BPR6EKN

I have a 99 GST
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I get the same when I use my year/model. I just search part numbers now (works on advancedauto's site, not sure about autozone) and order online to pickup in store. I believe the part numbers you need are either 4923 out 5534. They'll let you add to cart whether they fit your car or not, but will have a warning about them not being for your chosen vehicle.

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I've read somewhere that our cars dont like oridium.
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I am also looking to replace my plugs and I am looking to get the BPR6ES that everybody on here recommends, but when I do a model search on the NGK website those are not an option. Also when I am on the autozone website and have my make and model selected it says that part will not fit my car.

I get three plug options from the NGK website

NGK IX iridium 6637 BPR6EIX
NGK GP platinum 7084 BPR6EGP
NGK Multi-ground plug 6757 BPR6EKN

I have a 99 GST
NGK's catalog recommends the BPR6EKN for our cars. But we're all rebels, so we use something different. The 6ES is the same as the 6EKN except that it has a single electrode ground instead of a dual. And there's no real benefit to the double ground, and the 6ES plugs are cheaper and easier to come by, so that's what we use.


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I use br7s. Simple, cheap and proven. Gapped at .028. That was on the t25 though lol, the new 5858 i will prob gap down a few thousandths if necessary.

Oh, and whats the dif between BPR and BR?

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I've read somewhere that our cars dont like oridium.
Our cars also don't like imaginationium, unobtainium, and aicannotspellium.

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lmao, i believe its spelled iridium. Im sure they work fine but theres no reason to use them. Copper is fine. Hell if you had the money, one of the best metals to possibly use would be tungsten or gold. But still, for a forced induction car, i think its pointless.
I know in my field of work(clinical engineering) all xray tubes anodes are tungsten. Very tough and dense metal that can disperse heat very quickly.

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Guys there's one thing for sure that I learned from this threat is that every country or so have different names for the nkg spark plugs in us is BPR6ES or BR6ES I think. Here in Latin America the same plugs are called BCPR6ES in Europe is different as well but they are all the same that's why I was having a hard time finding them here.

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I use BPR6EY - grooved electrode plugs. Keeps the spark round and doesn't get squished...puts out a nice bump too.

Thing about IR plugs is that the tip can get hotter being a lot smaller in diameter to really create the plasma spark ball.

True, tungsten is GREATstuff-hard as nails and super dense, but also gradually erodes from the high voltage sparks.

you'd be doing expensive plugs like you do oil changes.

The BPR6ES-11's are for the NT motors and gapped at .044.
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Picked up my BPR6ES plugs today at Knecht's on sale for $1.50 each. Great buy. Cheapest maintenance I think I have ever done and with great results.
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Picked up my BPR6ES plugs today at Knecht's on sale for $1.50 each. Great buy. Cheapest maintenance I think I have ever done and with great results.
Make sure to gap them right and torque them right indeed cheapest, easiest maintenance FTW.

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Make sure to gap them right and torque them right indeed cheapest, easiest maintenance FTW.
Yes, Thanks. I gapped them before I installed them and torqued them properly.
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Our cars also don't like imaginationium, unobtainium, and aicannotspellium.
Oh crap, I just put unobtainium spark plugs in my car. :/ Maybe that's whats causing my gas oil mix :P
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