best camber fix

[chehsgsx]

ok so i just instaled tein type basics and my front camber is off alot. so i need to adjuste the camber. just wondering witch ones i should use outa these 3 1.Ingalls Front Adjustable Ball Joint 2.ingalls front camber adjuster ( 1 and 2 from extreme psi) 3. RRE SPC 2g front camber kit out of these 3 what is the cheapest and most ideal for street use? thanks for the help

P.S. i gona have the aliment done soon

 

[housegsx]

I use the eccentric A arm bushings. They've never given me any problems. In the rear I use spacers.

Like this.. Progress Technology Complete Alignment Kit Mitsubishi Eclipse, All 95-99 (bushing) :: Camber/Alignment Kits :: Suspension :: UltraRev, Inc.

 

[totaleclipse3]

If I am not mistaken their is a really cheap proven way of doing this available on VFAQ.com.

 

[illeffekt vr-4]

ok so i just instaled tein type basics and my front camber is off alot

What do you mean by a lot? How much did you lower the car?

 

[chehsgsx]

as far as the fronts go i only see ways that cost alot. but the rears yes theres a cheap way to do for cheap wit washers i just want to know about the fronts and whats best for my style driven and the car?

 

[chehsgsx]

the coil overs are tein type basic and i believe they are an 1 inch and a 1/8 drop. and i just replaced all the bushings.

 

[JDMHVN]

I was real short on money when I bought mine so I went with some random crap on EBAY... At first I was a little nervous about them but they've held up real well so here's a link to basically what I bought... eBay Motors: 95-99 ECLIPSE/TALON FWD/4WD FRONT/REAR CAMBER KIT 97 98 (item 190211308909 end time Apr-05-08 17:51:07 PDT) I've never had any problems but If I were you and I had the money I would just buy the ingalls kit it seems to be the best one IMO.

 

[gsxtasy]

the coil overs are tein type basic and i believe they are an 1 inch and a 1/8 drop. and i just replaced all the bushings.

Coilovers are adjustable, they don't come with a specific drop. So how much did YOU lower it? With a 1'' drop your camber won't be very far off.

 

[pukrnukr]

I would go with the SPC kit. I previously had a similar ingalls kit but after a few years it wouldn't hold it's settings. I drive my car all winter, and the roads get pretty bad around here. I have the offset bushing for the upper control arms (pressed into the anchor bolts). Mine came already installed in the anchor bolts on both the Ingalls and the SPC kit I have, but the SPC kit on RRE is pretty much the same thing ($110 for the entire front of car).
I bought my SPC kit used from a hardcore autocrosser who parted his car out and upgraded to an evo. I have been using them for at least two years in my car and have had no problems. My Ingalls kit didn't take half the abuse. If you get the anchor bolt Ingalls kit, I think it's actually made by a different company with an Ingalls sticker slapped on it. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure about this. I think some other people have had problems with them failing after a while too.
For the rear check the VFAQ.com. You just need some longer bolts and spacers. I think they have the exact specs on the bolts if you search through there.

 

[super97gst]

Coilovers are adjustable, they don't come with a specific drop. So how much did YOU lower it? With a 1'' drop your camber won't be very far off.

im running eibach pro springs with kyb agx's on my gst, which dropped it about 1". my camber was off a little over 1 degree. thats a lot, or at least enough to have to buy front tires every 5,000 miles.

i ended up buying ingalls camber kits front and rear. not the adjutable ball joints. the fronts were pretty pricey, but well worth it IMO. as far as suspension pieces i just dont feel thats a good place to skimp on anything.

 

[gsxtasy]

im running eibach pro springs with kyb agx's on my gst, which dropped it about 1". my camber was off a little over 1 degree. thats a lot, or at least enough to have to buy front tires every 5,000 miles.

i ended up buying ingalls camber kits front and rear. not the adjutable ball joints. the fronts were pretty pricey, but well worth it IMO. as far as suspension pieces i just dont feel thats a good place to skimp on anything.

I agree, that suspension isn't a place to skimp, i was just saying quite a few people have got by without a camber kit on the fronts. Too much camber isn't necessarily good, but toe is what you should be more concerned with. That's what will tear up tires worse, yes camber will too, just saying. However, you should still get your camber in spec.

 

[wret]

More negative camber is good if you turn a lot. Many people, including myself, would leave the front alone and space out the back a bit to keep rear camber between -1 to -1.5°. This is not only the cheap way, it's the best way. As long as you keep your toe dialed in and you do not have other alignment problems, you will not experience excessive tire wear.

 

[droppedlow]

I would go with the ingalls kit. I have it and love it and its easy to install, and my car is lowered 2 in. front and rear.

 

[DGajre777]

More negative camber is good if you turn a lot. Many people, including myself, would leave the front alone and space out the back a bit to keep rear camber between -1 to -1.5°. This is not only the cheap way, it's the best way. As long as you keep your toe dialed in and you do not have other alignment problems, you will not experience excessive tire wear.

x2. I went with RRE's rear camber kit and I don't have a camber kit in the front. I have Eibach Pros with Tokico Illuminas.

 

[chehsgsx]

well im trying very hard to keep everything dead on and getting the most outa my tires. the back is a no problem deal i know how to do the spacers and for the fronts ( from what everyone says) i should go with the ingalls control arm bushings. now where did all u guys get urs and for what price im pinching penny's but still dont wana cut corners ? thanks for all the help guys.

 

[illeffekt vr-4]

im running eibach pro springs with kyb agx's on my gst, which dropped it about 1". my camber was off a little over 1 degree. thats a lot, or at least enough to have to buy front tires every 5,000 miles.

-1* is not a lot of negative camber. For street cars (even daily driven ones) anything up to

-2.5* of negative camber is ok for the street as long as the TOE setting is 0. Negative camber will not eat tires as quickly as a wrong TOE setting.

I've driven my 91 eclipse gsx for more than one year with with -4* rear camber and the tires still looked like new. However when I went to do the alignment the tech messed up the TOE setting for the front tires and in less than 2 weeks the outside of my front tires were worn to the metal cords. So remember that a wrong TOE setting will eat tires a lot faster than negative camber

 

[droppedlow]

Ingalls Engineering Co., Inc. thats for the ingalls kits.

 

[TSiAWD666]

The ingall's kit with the rubber bushings in the anchors gets sloppy over time. I've contacted them about this and their answer is it's just the nature of the beast, but they do offer brass replacement bushings to "solve" this issue with the caveat they really don't recommend them for a street car (and I can't remember the exact reason as this was many years ago, but I imagine it's vibrations...) I've heard, like the previous post, that the SPC eccentric bushings have longer life. I personally have the ingalls currently and have had to replace the bushings multiple times. I have a set of spc upper a-arms with the adjustable ball joint which will go on with some spc bushings when my car is back from some body modifications, but can't comment on how well that's going to work.

To get back to roughly stock camber any of those kits will do, but based on other people's experience and mine I'd skip the Ingalls and go with SPC. You won't get much negative camber out of them though alone (I think I only get about -.7 deg in the front), but doesn't sound like you want it

 

[chehsgsx]

ok getting the aliment tomarow and well see maybe i wont do the camber adjustment yet but im gona buy a set of sumitomo HTR + everyone i talked to said they loved these. thanks for the help guys

 

[housegsx]

im gona buy a set of sumitomo HTR + everyone i talked to said they loved these. thanks for the help guys

Those are the worst tires ever. Please do not buy them. It's for your own good.

 

[meliketoball]

If I am not mistaken their is a really cheap proven way of doing this available on VFAQ.com.

Only have it available for the rears.

 

[chehsgsx]

iv read two threads about them and no one had anything but good reviews also iv looked at alota reveiws for them two and everyone likes them. they where rated 3rd i believe on tirerack.com. so my question now is what do u guys think, and please explain anyone can just say they suck but i wana know y

 

[housegsx]

I've had them on my GSX and my good friend had them on his C4 Vette. The don't have much grip and the sidewalls are very soft. I could tell how bad they were simply making a quick lane change. I could feel them roll under pretty bad and after I staighten it out you can feel the car still moving on the tires. Very unresponsive during any quick maneuvers. But that's just our experience.

 

[Johnny123]

how do you fix toe?? i dropped mine with eibach springs and it dropped about 2 - 2.5 inches..and i went with the ingalls camber kit..it workd for the front but in the rear i cant make it right..ill either have a camber problem. or the toe will be off..theirs no solution.

 

[illeffekt vr-4]

Toe is adjusted on the outer tie rods.