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03-25-2007, 05:12 AM
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injen short ram vs. cold air intake
i dont know the difference between the cold air and short ram intake for turbo model. im ready to buy but im a little confused. 
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03-25-2007, 06:55 AM
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Last I knew there were no cold air intakes available for turbo models. That should make your decision easier. The "short ram" simply replaces your rubber intake with an aluminum one, and allows you to remove your stock air box and replace it with a cone filter. A cold air system extends the filter or the inlet outside or away from the hot air in the engine bay.
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06-10-2008, 10:24 AM
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I have a 91 Eclipse GS (4G63) that I'm looking to build up. Right now it's 100% stock and I'm looking at getting an aftermarket intake. I have found both cold air intake and short ram intake sets. I was wondering which would be best to give me the most power. From what I know, cold air intakes give you more low end power and short ram intakes give you more high end power. Is that true? And if the short ram intakes do give you more high end, would I need to look at getting a hood scoop to force air in? Let me know which would be a better choice. Thanks! 
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06-10-2008, 12:16 PM
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I have a 91 Eclipse GS (4G63) that I'm looking to build up. Right now it's 100% stock and I'm looking at getting an aftermarket intake. I have found both cold air intake and short ram intake sets. I was wondering which would be best to give me the most power. From what I know, cold air intakes give you more low end power and short ram intakes give you more high end power. Is that true? And if the short ram intakes do give you more high end, would I need to look at getting a hood scoop to force air in? Let me know which would be a better choice. Thanks! 
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You'll regret building a non-turbo car. Get a turbo DSM and save yourself a lot of work.
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06-10-2008, 12:22 PM
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Not sure about the high v.s. low end power, but cold air intakes are located more towards the wheel well where they can suck in cooler air, versus the short ram which is located in the engine bay but replace the rubber with the aluminum piping as Wret said, but with a naturally aspirated car the difference will be limited.
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06-10-2008, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lillben07
I have a 91 Eclipse GS (4G63) that I'm looking to build up. Right now it's 100% stock and I'm looking at getting an aftermarket intake. I have found both cold air intake and short ram intake sets. I was wondering which would be best to give me the most power. From what I know, cold air intakes give you more low end power and short ram intakes give you more high end power. Is that true? And if the short ram intakes do give you more high end, would I need to look at getting a hood scoop to force air in? Let me know which would be a better choice. Thanks! 
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Are you able to post pics up I personally have never seen a cold air intake for a turbo eclipse. We not unless it was custom built.
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06-10-2008, 01:05 PM
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A short ram air intake gives you more low end, and a cold air intake gives you more topend.
When you hit the gas, the engine doesnt need to pull air through a long tube on the short ram air intake. The tube on a short ram air is typically larger in diameter than the cold air intake tube.
The tubing on the cold air is longer, thus requiring more work at first. However, when you are high into the rpms it is more effective at keeping the air and engine cooler, which creates more power. My old 99 GS o-z had pretty mean topend for a non turbo. I had both intakes and I would usually have the cold air intake on, because you just can't compete from a stop with a turboless 2.0 motor.
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06-10-2008, 01:10 PM
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Are you able to post pics up I personally have never seen a cold air intake for a turbo eclipse. We not unless it was custom built.
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I don't have pics but I've seen a guy with a 50 trim, that had the intake go over and through the oem hole which the stock upper intercooler pipe went through. He had a 7" cone on it which was exposed to the intake hole on the front bumper like the stock intercooler is. He could do this because he had an ETS intercooler. He ran e-85 as well.
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