Control arm bushing removal prob

[300hpbound]

I purchased some new Raybestos lower control arms for my 1G Talon ES. I also bought some poly bushings from Energy Suspension (through STM) and for some reason I can't seem to get the smaller of the two bushings out. It's almost as though the smaller bushing is totally connected to the outer metal ring because this thing won't budge at all. Any suggestions? I would like to get these on my car on Saturday so the quicker the responses the better would be much appreciated from all of you. Just in case you guys didn't know specifically which one I was referring to, picture:

 

[shane90gsx]

I have to buy a 20 ton press to do my bushings. Use a big socket on the inside. (bigger then the bushing but smaller then the housing, and perfect. The other way to is get a gas torch and burn the rubber, once cooled you then take a hammer and cold chisel and beat the chisel between the metal sleeve and outer bushing ring. (the ring left after burning) the 2nd way is not fun though!!

 

[300hpbound]

I ended up having to take them to my dad's shop and use a press to get them out. Contrary to a write up in the tech articles, they don't just press out nicely in a vice grip. The come out torn all to hell as they're connected to the inner ring. Just for future reference to anyone replacing control arm bushings, have a press ready. I didn't want to go the torch route just for fear of potential damage of brand new control arms.

 

[ramsack]

Only the rubber portion of that bushing is supposed to come out. Trust me. When I did mine we took an air chisel to it and got about a quarter of the way through before measuring the poly bushing and the ID of the sleeve inside of the control arm, and needless to say it was fun hammering the sleeve back to its original shape. A bushing job is, with 100% certainty, a job meant to only need a press. You can't press out that sleeve without bending the control arm, but the rubber portion can be pressed out easily.

 

[300hpbound]

Only the rubber portion of that bushing is supposed to come out. Trust me. When I did mine we took an air chisel to it and got about a quarter of the way through before measuring the poly bushing and the ID of the sleeve inside of the control arm, and needless to say it was fun hammering the sleeve back to its original shape. A bushing job is, with 100% certainty, a job meant to only need a press. You can't press out that sleeve without bending the control arm, but the rubber portion can be pressed out easily.

That's all I pressed out was the rubber portion. My dad thought the entire inner sleeve was supposed to come out as well but I told him that without that inner sleeve the new poly bushing was just going to rattle around. He finally seen what I was talking about and no big deal.

The rubber is attached to the inner sleeve is what I was saying, and it comes out mangled to sh*t when pressed out. I ended up taking an air grinder to the inner sleeve as well to get the rest of the rubber out and smooth everything up before putting in the new bushing. Nice and tight suspension now

 

[T is for TURBO]

I use fire to remove my bushings.

 

[kchaazz]

The smaller 1G control arm bushings are quite easily removed with a ball peen hammer and a socket, least, the ten or so that Ive done came out easily. Just hit the inner sleeve (the sleeve that the bolt goes through) with the "peen" side of the hammer as far as you can, then put the socket in and use the flat side of the head to finish it off. Its kind of a pain in the arse to use a press on that bushing anyway- Ive got a press at home, and every time, I choose the hammer and socket for that bushing and you can have it out in less time than itll take to get the press set up and the arm in position. My experience has only been with the OE arms and bushings, which arent vulcanized to the control arm though, and Raybestos may be vulcanizing their bushings in...

 

[300hpbound]

The smaller 1G control arm bushings are quite easily removed with a ball peen hammer and a socket, least, the ten or so that Ive done came out easily. Just hit the inner sleeve (the sleeve that the bolt goes through) with the "peen" side of the hammer as far as you can, then put the socket in and use the flat side of the head to finish it off. Its kind of a pain in the arse to use a press on that bushing anyway- Ive got a press at home, and every time, I choose the hammer and socket for that bushing and you can have it out in less time than itll take to get the press set up and the arm in position. My experience has only been with the OE arms and bushings, which arent vulcanized to the control arm though, and Raybestos may be vulcanizing their bushings in...

Raybestos is vulcanizing those bushings in, that's why it wasn't easy to get out. I should have posted a picture of the bushing itself and the inner sleeve so you guys could see what I had dealt with. The bushing didn't look pretty at all after removal. It was a bit of a pain to get the press to work correctly but everything was pressed out and new stuff inserted with no damage to the Control Arm's