Advantage/Disadvantage of a '90-'91 from a '92-'94 1G

[Dieselboy]

Talons TSi (AWD) and Eclipse GSX 1G's, whats ALL the advantage/disadvantages about the '90-'91 apart from the '92-'94??? Problems, recalls, performance potential, EVERYTHING. Thanks

 

[dsmkilla]

i heard 90-91 has better/stabler drivetrains!!!!!! not sure. the ones after that has a skrewed up drivetrain i heard.

 

[Dieselboy]

Maybe thats the transfer case leak, but from my understanding the '90-'91's had em too

 

[BatmanGSX]

90-91

pros
Always has a 6-bolt motor
Always has the better 3rd and 4th gear
Cheaper

cons
Always has older synchros that aren't as good
Always has a 3-bolt axle
90 has a bunch of weird sh|t that is different than any other year
Probably going to have more miles
Worse cams, worst on the 90s


92-94

pros
Most have 4-bolt axle
Most have updated syncros
Probably going to have less miles
Better cams, best on the 94s

cons
Most have have a stupid 7-bolt motor
Most have weaker 3rd and 4th gear

 

[Dieselboy]

Originally posted by BatmanGSX
90-91

cons
#1)Always has older synchros that aren't as good
#2)Always has a 3-bolt axle
#3)90 has a bunch of weird sh|t that is different than any other year
Probably going to have more miles
#4)Worse cams, worst on the 90s

Questions

#1)Can I swap the synchros for newer ones, or just get the tranny rebuilt?
#2)Can I upgrade to a newer 4-bolt?
#3)Different like what?
#4)Can I swap these out for '94's or does HSK make cams for the '90-'91?

Thanks, sorry bout all the questions

 

[BatmanGSX]

Originally posted by Dieselboy


Questions

#1)Can I swap the synchros for newer ones, or just get the tranny rebuilt?
#2)Can I upgrade to a newer 4-bolt?
#3)Different like what?
#4)Can I swap these out for '94's or does HSK make cams for the '90-'91?

Thanks, sorry bout all the questions

1) yes
2) yes
3) different TB, different cruise control, different CAS, different ECU (more stuff I forget)
4) yes, HKS makes cams for the 90-91. It's not worth swapping to another set of stock cams from a different year, they aren't that different

 

[Violater101]

92-94 have "Bigger Brakes" . Some late 91's I believe also have the dual piston calipers.

 

[CarpeDSM]

'90 also has an external oil cooler!

'90-'91 look better than '92-'94

 

[KenTSIII]

92 is the best year DSM. If you get really lucky you can get all the goodies... 6bolt motor, big brakes, 4 bolt rear end, & the better 3rd/4th gear. As long as you stay w/ the early 92s (built in 91) then you'll at least get everything but the big brakes... which are also the easiest/cheapest to retrofit. Also almost every 92 thats I've seen has had an EPROM ECU.

 

[Newlogics]

One more thing I just found out, is that 90s have different shifter lever from 91-up.
Short throw shifter doesn't fit without mods.

 

[NOMIEZVR4]

how hard would it be to install new synchros? how about professional prices?

 

[djpast]

i have a 92 with everything listed above... muahahahahahahahaha =) sorry =)

 

[Enigma_Man]

Hehehe I do too

-Jesse

 

[BatmanGSX]

I thought big brakes came in 93.5. Even those are still shitty, if you are serious about braking you would ditch the "little brakes" or the "big brakes"

 

[KenTSIII]

"big brakes" w/ porterfield R4S pads actually work quite well.

 

[BatmanGSX]

Originally posted by KenTSIII
"big brakes" w/ porterfield R4S pads actually work quite well.

I'm sure they work quite well in normal conditions but on a road course or even an AutoX they would still be a joke.

 

[SM00TH976]

it's funny you guys think the brakes are so bad on these cars. the 91 i test drove yesterday felt great! but then again i am used to the breaks on my prelude and they are really really weak. even by honda standards.

 

[TurboSpoolinIns]

Originally posted by SM00TH976
it's funny you guys think the brakes are so bad on these cars. the 91 i test drove yesterday felt great! but then again i am used to the breaks on my prelude and they are really really weak. even by honda standards.

My prelude's brakes were fine.. but then again, they were cross-drilled and slotted Brembo's with metal master pads But I'd say everyone pretty much covered everything about the differences. 90's also have differently routed stock UICP and different trannys/(where the tranny cables are clipped on).

 

[tsi_turboawd]

my car is a '91, and i believe its was manufactured in late. '90.

does that mean i have the "dual piston" biggest brakes in 1Gs?