t3/t4 garret turbo

[dsm girl]

Is a t3/t4 garret 55mm trim a good turbo and if so how much power do they make?

 

[BatmanGSX]

I don't think there is a 55mm trim. There is a 50-trim. That's a good wheel. It flows 49lb/min and DSMs tend to make around 10hp per lb/min. It's would probably be good for an honest 420hp to the wheels with good tuning and possibly more pushing it to the edge.

You need to find out more about what the turbo is. If you can find out what compressor cover it has it will help us a lot.

There is a 48-trim, 50-trim (the best of the T04E series in my opinion), 54-trim, 57-trim and 60-trim (and honestly a bunch more less common ones). You need to know which it is. I'm not really in love with anything other the 50-trim.

Also you need to know the exhaust info:

Turbine A/R
Turbine Wheel

Garrett combos can be hit and miss if you don't have experience with them. If I recall you are buying this turbo from some local shop for cheap? Like part of a package deal? I think that unless you can find someone who has all the combos available and can help you choose the right one that you should stay away from the turbo. You will be better off with something like a 16G or 20G.

 

[GSX4LIFE]

Your not going to make 500whp with a 50trim. Cmon, we all know what "SECRET" turbo uses a 50trim, 49lb per min comp wheel. No, No, No. Get a turbo with a 54lb per min compressor wheel. If DSMs make about 10hp per lb per min, then the turbo with this wheel will ALWAYS make more power than the turbo with the 49lb per min compwheel, right? Give me a break Like I said, go with whatever turbo you feel most confident in. Pick one that is known, that other people have, and you wont be dissapointed with it.

 

[BatmanGSX]

Originally posted by GSX4LIFE
Your not going to make 500whp with a 50trim. Cmon, we all know what "SECRET" turbo uses a 50trim, 49lb per min comp wheel. No, No, No. Get a turbo with a 54lb per min compressor wheel. If DSMs make about 10hp per lb per min, then the turbo with this wheel will ALWAYS make more power than the turbo with the 49lb per min compwheel, right? Give me a break Like I said, go with whatever turbo you feel most confident in. Pick one that is known, that other people have, and you wont be dissapointed with it.

I find your use of skilled innuendos quite intriguing.

I've heard of certain "secret" turbos running quite well.

To quote you:
"Pick one that is known, that other people have, and you wont be dissapointed with it."

 

[GSX4LIFE]

Just keeping everyone on thier toes. What I meant by pick one that is people have, is choose a known turbo. Obviously, if he wanted to go with something new, he would already have purchased it, and wouldnt be asking our oppinion of it. I Was a guinny pig, of sorts, when I got my turbo. I did not ask people about it. Because I knew, already that no one had it. I find it intruiging, how you cleverly plug your turbo, thinking that people wont figure it out. BTW, are you making 500wph? Or even 400whp? Have you shattered the 10sec barrier? Im actually curious. I know you have changed your setup,but I havnt heard anything about, or seen any pics.

 

[BatmanGSX]

The only barrier my car has shattered is how long a guy can keep a dead car sitting in his mom's driveway without being killed.

If it actually runs at all I will have an orgasm, let alone if it ran 10s or made 400hp.

I'm not saying anything against your turbo. I think both our turbos have excellent potential to make us both happy and put up good numbers.

 

[TRBOTSI]

Originally posted by BatmanGSX
There is a 50-trim. That's a good wheel.

Agreed, the 50 trim wheel is a great street/strip wheel and has a 3" exducer which you won't see again with the garrett wheels until you get to the 60 trim or the 60-1, i forget. The 60 trim wheels are large wheels and you need a lot of supporting mods to benefit from them. So for a street/strip 50 trim is the way to go. It's no wonder FP only has a 50 trim and a 60-1 in their turbos

 

[DSMJim]

A miata at our shop made 350hp at the wheels at 22psi with a 54 / stage 5 exhaust. We spoke to turbonetics about that particular turbo and they said it was acctually a crappy turbo. To either go with a 50 A/R or 57 - 60 A/R as the 54 was not very efficient.

 

[GSX4LIFE]

Many people say the same thing about the 60-1. I do not put much faith in what "PEOPLE" say. I dont think there is an basolute "crappy" trim comp. wheel. Only crappy combos, of wheels. A properly matched compressor and turbine will yield very good useable horspower. It may not do it as efficient as another, thats a given, but that does not mean it is total garbage. ballistics wheels are much more efficient than anything else on the market right now. Does that mean the T4T3 stuff is trash? HELL no! There are just different ways of coming to the same conclusion. Batman, actually jsut mentioned that in his last post. I agree.

 

[GalantVR41062]

I thought the 50trim was only 47lbs/min and the 60trim 50lb/min?
http://www.majesticturbo.com/compression.html
but that T-61 looks dam nice.
I am going with the T04E 60tim stage 3 .82A/R 4bolt ford turbine housing
I hope to make good power on this turbo, I herd someone made 500whp race gas with 1g rods with 2g pistons, and ran 10.8ish@132mph
50trim is good
60trim is good
T-61 is great
GT35R or FP-30 are the best.....
I thought the Red was a 62-1 compressor thus why it ran 145mph trap...
only my thoughts

 

[TurboSpoolinIns]

Originally posted by GalantVR41062
I thought the 50trim was only 47lbs/min and the 60trim 50lb/min?
http://www.majesticturbo.com/compression.html
but that T-61 looks dam nice.
I am going with the T04E 60tim stage 3 .82A/R 4bolt ford turbine housing
I hope to make good power on this turbo, I herd someone made 500whp race gas with 1g rods with 2g pistons, and ran 10.8ish@132mph
50trim is good
60trim is good
T-61 is great
GT35R or FP-30 are the best.....
I thought the Red was a 62-1 compressor thus why it ran 145mph trap...
only my thoughts

No, the red's a 60-1.
I think your .82 a/r turbine housing is gonna be a little laggy don't u think? Unless you're spraying??? Someone ran a 132 mph on 2g piston/1g rods? are you sure?

 

[GSX4LIFE]

FP-30 is a specific turbo, not a wheel. he wheel is a GT30. Allied Sygnals latest and greatest.