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Old 07-14-2003, 09:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question When's it time to call it quits on the 420a???

I was j/w, how much HP can the 420a actually handle? I'm shootin for about 200hp w/o turbo and nos. Can the engine even take 200hp w/o replacing internals? If you know how much it can handle or are running over 200hp w/ the 420a, your input would be greatly appreciated. Thanx


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Old 07-14-2003, 10:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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ive been asking myself the same question over and over and thats why I'm getting a GST or GSX in a few months.....if i wasnt getting married in September I'd be in one right now.

I have a header, cat back, CAI and I dyno'd at 134 to the wheels which is = to about 154 total hp......+20 from stock but a long way from your goal....

I dont know your situation but I'd save up and get a GST or GSX.....I've had my N/t for 18 months now and I've been asking this question for 12 of them.....
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Old 07-15-2003, 07:40 AM   #3 (permalink)
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the 420A can handle around 270 hp. after that you need to build up the internals. You can make our n/t fast it just takes a bit more work.

And good luck trying to get 200hp w/o turbo or nos. Its very difficult.
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Old 07-15-2003, 08:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Trust me, I would go out and buy the GSX/GST if I could. But im just a 17yr old kid w/ a part-time job. One I can't afford it and two my insurance would sky rocket upwards! Thanks for everything though guyz. I have just one more question though. How much HP, to the wheels, does the 46g3 engine have?


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Old 07-15-2003, 11:07 AM   #5 (permalink)
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only about 200 to the wheels.
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Old 07-15-2003, 11:26 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think SIU is right about the hp, it might even be a little less. The stock T25 is only good to about 280hp properly modded (give or take). After that you will need a better turbo.
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Old 07-15-2003, 05:04 PM   #7 (permalink)
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isnt it around 180hp to the wheels and 200-210 to the crank
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Old 07-17-2003, 12:24 AM   #8 (permalink)
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ah hah! It can handle 300 to the crank....but it's difficult to get more than 200 to the wheels in n/a form. I'd like to get there before I boost - but that's a tall order.
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I was lookin at the new Import Tuner and in the power pages a awd talon dynoed at like 152 wheel hp and i dont remember whar the torque was. And 200 or 210 is at the crank.

And i have read on the hahn sight that the 420a can handle around 300 hp befor needing internal mods. If I rremember correctly because its been a whil since I have been to their sight.


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you are correct the 420a can handle up to max 270-300 before any internals need to be modded. but like they say it woudl be hard or atleast i think it would to get to 200 hp in n/a form. but hey that is where all the fun comes in just trying to get there. good luck with it.
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hard not impossable!!!! good luck


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