dsmlink /w gm maft

[bowerboy_1]

has anyone ever tried this combination?
How well did it turn out?
Is the maft easily overrun?
I'm thinking of getting it if they are a good match for each other

 

[Lunch_Box]

I believe all you have to do is zero out the maft settings and tune with the DSMlink.

 

[eclipsegsx9797]

i use it right now and it works alsome. all i have is the maft set at 0 and the injectors at 450. but there is actully a way to calibrate you maft setup witch i think is really hard and i have not tried it yet.

 

[Diceman19]

no need for the maft when you have the dsmlink, the ecu can already read its signal if you click the right options in the link.

 

[HighPSI TSi Guy]

no need for the maft when you have the dsmlink, the ecu can already read its signal if you click the right options in the link.

uh... what?

 

[Lunch_Box]

no need for the maft when you have the dsmlink, the ecu can already read its signal if you click the right options in the link.

Dsmlink isn't a standalone so it is still dependent on the factory mas or a GM mas and MAFT.

 

[highboosted98]

Unless your venting your B.O.V. too the atmosphere theres really no need for the gm maft. However you could do your base tuning on the maf-t and do fine tuning,adjust timming etc. on the dsm link. The link works more better then "piggyback units" because its actually programming your ecu rather then just fooling it.

 

[Lunch_Box]

What do you mean that the GM MAFT is only good for venting, so basically you are saying that it is a "ricer" mod then. Maybe you should search a little and find out why else it is better before you make a post.

 

[highboosted98]

Actually what i`m saying is that if hes running the dsmlink along with the maft, He would find the maf-t useless unless he was venting. The dsm link is a much more effictive tuning device. You also can remove the mas without having restrictive honeycombs it gives the turbo a much better spool up time.

 

[Diceman19]

actually, the gm maf will flow more air than the 1g or 2g mas. the dsmlink for the 1g has 4 options for mafs. 1g, 2g, hacked, gm. if you set it to gm, it will read it and thus eliminating the need for the maf translator. you would zero that out to tune with the link.

now, will you ever hit the max amount of air the 1g or 2g mas can do, probly not, but just in case...

 

[Lunch_Box]

Is this the same for the 2G with the maft translator not being needed? I am looking to get a DSMlink V2 for my GSX and if I don't need to get the translator the better.

 

[scottsee]

whoo, whoo, who, whoooo, whooo... they finaly intigrated the translator for gm into the maf dsmlink settings? i e-mailed the guys at dsmlink. and they told me that wasnt on the cutting block for 1g or new 2g coming out soon. are you telling me the 1g ver "absolutly" does has the gm maf setting that illiminates the need to buy the translator??

 

[98spydert]

You still need the translator with DSMLink if you want to use a GM MAF.

The benifits of using the GM/MAFT combo do include the ability to tune and vent and it can out flow the stock counterparts. But on top of that, the GM MAF is more accurate as far as an "air count" and when used in a blow thru configuration, gives you a much more accurate count considering the temperature differences between the two locations (near t body and at filter.)

Another benifit, if you have a boost leak before the MAF, it won't effect your air:fuel negativly (yes, a boost leak is still bad . Also if you blow a coupler off before the GM MAF you can still drive fine in order to get home or get to a place were you can fix your pipes. I know when I blew pipes off before I had a blow thru set up, I couldn't even give it 1/4 throttle or it would bog out and try to die. That SUCKS on a bridge on on the a busy free way were you can't just cruise over the side of the road.

 

[scottsee]

thats what i thought. what diceman said through me for a loop!
this is the responce i got from my e-mail about the new 1g dsmlink.

"The 1G version does have a few new features over the current 2G V2
package. The biggest one of which is the non volatile RAM setup, which
permanently records your changes to the chip. We do also include
various MAF setups, but we have not (yet) added support for taking in a
GM MAF output directly into the ECU. That is planned, though."

 

[98spydert]

Man, that'll be the breaking point for me. If they add the ability to eliminate the translator, I'll order one the next day

 

[Hal]

dsmlink for the 1g has 4 options for mafs. 1g, 2g, hacked, gm. if

Sorry, wrong answer, it has three options:

GVR4
1g stock
2g stock

No specific option exists for any "hacked" maf, nor does it work with the GM MAF unless you are using a MAFT.

Hal

 

[Diceman19]

Sorry, wrong answer, it has three options:

GVR4
1g stock
2g stock

No specific option exists for any "hacked" maf.
Hal

whatever you say there buddy, i just receieved mine in the mail, have you even placed your order...... i am speaking of the 1g dsmlink btw, 2g doesnt have some of the extras the 1g has right now

straight from the order page

1G or 1G MAFT
2G or 2G MAFT
Hacked 2g
VR4 or Hacked 1G

try and figure out the facts before you come out saying stuff.

oh yea, proof.

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[Hal]

Straight from the DSMLink client source code:

mafSelCombo.addItem("1G MAF");
mafSelCombo.addItem("2G MAF");
mafSelCombo.addItem("VR4 MAF");

I wrote the DSMLink Palm client, I know which MAFS are supported and what the selection options are.

Hacked MAF support is done by changing the MAFComp table to make the reported airflow match the actual airflow. The GM MAF supported using the MAFT and emulating a stock MAF.

Your statement "the dsmlink for the 1g has 4 options for mafs. 1g, 2g, hacked, gm" was inaccurate.

It has 1g, 2g, and VR4. Something you will see when you actually install it and do ECU -> AIRFLOW

Hal

 

[Diceman19]

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[Hal]

regardless, there are four options for the 1g version, that was the point of my last post. i am recieving conflicting information about certain "features" from some people that i know, that is why i did not continue with the discussion on that note. your statement of only 3 options is incorrect in this case, if you read my last post, i am counting four.

 

[Lunch_Box]

So as of now you still need to use a maft translator? Are they working on it so it is not needed?

 

[Hal]

So as of now you still need to use a maft translator? Are they working on it so it is not needed?

Yes, you must use a MAFT.

The ability to use the GM MAF directly is on a list of "ideas".

Some of which may or may not be implemented.

Hal

 

[Diceman19]

why do you think there are four dots there. not worth the argument IMO.

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[Hal]

why do you think there are four dots there. not worth the argument IMO.

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Four dots where?

 

[anconover]

I believe he means he was wrong. You were right.