Yeah, that is the question. What are the Pros and Cons of doing a Stroker Kit? I did a search on 2gnt and here and I seem to never find exactly what I want to know in full that helps me make a decision instead of just leaving me with more questions.

What are the advantages and disadvantages of Stroking or not stroking?

Pros
faster spool up
more off boost power

Cons
less RPM range due to stroke angle (can be argumented)
$$$

Check out the Stroker sub forum under the Short Block forum.

Are you looking on doin this to a 420a?

Pro: more torque
Con: more torque

Lol. You'll make more torque but if I got problems hookin up without the stroker kit, I can't imagine what it'll be like with it.

Abe, you just don't know how to drive!

Ya need to lay off the clutch! 'Your not double clutchin like ya should!'

absolute_DSM said:

Are you looking on doin this to a 420a?

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Yes, Not the current one. I have a spare 420A block that I am fully building and thinking about doing a 2.2L Stroker.

A stroker, on our little motors, provides more power everywhere, most notably down low. Some would argue that the additional low end torque on a FWD vehicle would make it more difficult to maintain proper grip. The horrible rod angle caused by stroking a motor can be lessened with longer rods, but with longer rods your pistons accelerate at a higher rate. Think, lower safe rev limit, unless you have the high dollar parts to handle the abuse.

It is generally accepted that 2gnt's are turds under 2500rpm, even more so if you have huge camshafts. IMO, daily driving would greatly benefit from the added torque that a stroker provides, if that is at all a concern to you.

Locke said:

The horrible rod angle caused by stroking a motor can be lessened with longer rods

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Rod Angle?

The angle of the connecting rod, at 1/2 of the pistons travel, to the crankshaft will be much farther from 90*, lowering the effectiveness of the lengthened lever. This rod angle also loads the piston from the side, more than would be with a straighter rod angle. Longer rods will bring this angle back into check, but at the expense of a longer piston dwell.

edit: Engine building is about managing trade-offs. There is no perfect engine.

So what would be best? Just from my knowledge, I'd think that the excessive angle of the rod and like you said it pushing the piston into the cylinder walls when its at that angle... is not good.... What would be the "Safest" way to stroke the motor for this nice power?

I say stick with the stock 2.0 L displacement. As was mentioned, the stroker creates the conditions possible for losing traction. Sure you have more torque, but what good is it if the car isn't moving? I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I think the power to be made with a 420A lays in the upper powerband. I'd rather have a high redline, then torque down low.

have you thought about doing the 2.4L swap from the pt cruisers? ive heard a few have done it. but it is a stroker, the block is an inch taller than ours, considring that and longer stroke gives the extra .4L. also a lot of extra torque. our head will fit right on, but there are a few mods goin along with droppin it in. i just thought id throw an idea out there if you're considering something else.

and i think what locke is saying is that you have to change more than just the crank because your rods will want to bind the pistons more if you kept the stock length rods. and lengthening the rods will take away some of the binding angle that the stockers were giving to the pistons. hope this helps ya

Which is why I'm looking into actual Stroker Kits... not just peicing the bottom end together.

And I'm kinda with you on that Paul... Sure I'd love to have low end power... but I like high rpm motors...

And the 2.4L From the Bruiser or as the Turbo'd version would be the SRT... I have thought about it... looked a little bit into it... but don't know whats involved but at the same time seing too many people complain that its not worth it in any short or long run.

yeah i have been looking toward that since i heard about it. and i was just on chrysler's site looking at info, and yeah its not really worth it. only 35 more ft-lbs and 10hp, lower in rpm's though, and it tachs out at 6200rpm. i dont think its worth doin for that. but considering built and turbo'd, it might be pretty good. but you might be capable of the same with your current engine.

Or I could throw a few more grand into an SRT4 motor! haha nah I'd rather make mine look and perform like one but keep the 420A...

yeah, i would just see how far it can be safely bored, keep the same stroke, build up the internals, get the head worked, and boost the hell out of it.

Yeah, same shit different day tho! I want to look more into stroking just to see if its worth it in my opinion cause its something different.....

I really want the 'WOW' Effect. I just got that from a 89 Turbo Civic! Non VTEC DOHC Turbo Civic slammed me to the seat! And it was running like crap... parts falling off and shit...

Maybe I can use myself as a test bunny for the "Boost Gets You Laid" motto...

95 'clipse RS said:

yeah, i would just see how far it can be safely bored

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Not enough for any appreciable gains. The more you bore it now, the less cylinder wall you have left to bore in the future, when you may need it to clean or true the walls.

yeah thats true, i dont think there would be much of a gain boring possibly .3L anyways. but i thought it all might add up in the end. im also looking into stroking my engine, or still possibly trying the pt engine. but im having trouble finding legidimate info to go by. i mean i want power off of the line and still some left for the top end, anyone have any info they can throw out concerning stroking the 420A?

What you should do, is take the srt4 block, stroke it, have a 2.6-2.7L, and boost it!

InfiniteGSX said:

Abe, you just don't know how to drive!
Ya need to lay off the clutch! 'Your not double clutchin like ya should!'

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Lol, belive me, I know how to drive, Vin Disesl.

Bull shit! I didn't nark on NOBODY!

InfiniteGSX said:

Bull shit! I didn't nark on NOBODY!

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2 negatives make a postive, right? Lol. I still don't see why you would want a stroker on a FWD car. Just keep you 2.0L and boost the hell out of it. After all boost is the replacement for displacement.

Your just afraid of a lil competition! I think your manual windows have strayed your mind into thinking your car is fast...

InfiniteGSX said:

Your just afraid of a lil competition! I think your manual windows have strayed your mind into thinking your car is fast...

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Lol, I never said my car was "fast." Just buy the stroker kit and then either I will go over there or you can come over here and we'll compare the two. I should have dyno numbers by next month as well as track times (with slips).

Yeah, and there you go trying to act like a mature adult!

HAHAHA, sorry...

You can by all means come over here... Unless you wanna pay me for the gas to drive out there... We could find some nice low alt. place to meet in the middle... hehe... that should be fun!

You both gonna go on green

How much power are you trying to make and where you trying to have your shift points. In reality if yoru not trying to rev past 6.5-7k then the stroker is the way to go. People say you can rev higher with stock displacement yet they never push it. Turbo is of course the replacement for displacement but who says you can't have the best of both worlds. I have one word for you torque is bad guys..... SLICKS