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Artago

Artago

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Nov 30, 2006
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Hey all, I just finished installing my new brake setup a few days ago and just wanted to post some pics and show it off a bit. I ordered some R1 Concepts' E-Line Performance Brake Rotors and R1 Concepts' Premium Semi-Metallic Brake Pads for $232.79 shipped to Canada. I also got some SS Braided Brake Lines from R1 Concepts as well for $94.00. I put everything on and it's been about a week now and I'm happy with the results. :) MY old rotors were warped so the car shook violently under braking. :( I still have some work to do because I broke the bleeder valves on the calipers so I had to bleed the calipers another way and I'm sure there is some air left in the calipers, but not a lot. So, now I need to put in new bleeder valves to get all the air out but that's a job for another day. In the mean time I'm very satisfied, the car brakes well and its going to get better because the rotors and pads are still being broken in (and I still have to re-bleed it). Anyways, enjoy the pics everyone. Tom. :thumb:

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.ca/tomas.beblar/CarsPics/photo#5100160029653741282"><img src="http://lh6.google.ca/tomas.beblar/RsdohnEoLuI/AAAAAAAAEa8/lLcemtH7Gz0/s144/pic%20001.jpg" /></a><a href="http://picasaweb.google.ca/tomas.beblar/CarsPics/photo#5100160046833610482"><img src="http://lh6.google.ca/tomas.beblar/RsdoinEoLvI/AAAAAAAAEbE/m3aPH1DgLss/s144/pic%20002.jpg" /></a><a href="http://picasaweb.google.ca/tomas.beblar/CarsPics/photo#5100160064013479682"><img src="http://lh6.google.ca/tomas.beblar/RsdojnEoLwI/AAAAAAAAEbM/M0XpSJyXETM/s144/pic%20003.jpg" /></a><a href="http://picasaweb.google.ca/tomas.beblar/CarsPics/photo#5100160081193348882"><img src="http://lh6.google.ca/tomas.beblar/RsdoknEoLxI/AAAAAAAAEbU/wRJYlOebMKU/s144/pic%20004.jpg" /></a><a href="http://picasaweb.google.ca/tomas.beblar/CarsPics/photo#5100160111258119970"><img src="http://lh5.google.ca/tomas.beblar/RsdomXEoLyI/AAAAAAAAEbc/k96MOXHTyoo/s144/pic%20005.jpg" /></a><a href="http://picasaweb.google.ca/tomas.beblar/CarsPics/photo#5100160240107138930"><img src="http://lh3.google.ca/tomas.beblar/Rsdot3EoL3I/AAAAAAAAEcE/F4EWMQFY2fk/s144/pic%20011.jpg" /></a>
 
Artago said:
Hey all, I just finished installing my new brake setup a few days ago and just wanted to post some pics and show it off a bit. I ordered some R1 Concepts' E-Line Performance Brake Rotors and R1 Concepts' Premium Semi-Metallic Brake Pads for $232.79 shipped to Canada. I also got some SS Braided Brake Lines from R1 Concepts as well for $94.00. I put everything on and it's been about a week now and I'm happy with the results. :) MY old rotors were warped so the car shook violently under braking. :( I still have some work to do because I broke the bleeder valves on the calipers so I had to bleed the calipers another way and I'm sure there is some air left in the calipers, but not a lot. So, now I need to put in new bleeder valves to get all the air out but that's a job for another day. In the mean time I'm very satisfied, the car brakes well and its going to get better because the rotors and pads are still being broken in (and I still have to re-bleed it). Anyways, enjoy the pics everyone. Tom. :thumb:

<a href="http://picasaweb.google.ca/tomas.beblar/CarsPics/photo#5100160029653741282"><img src="http://lh6.google.ca/tomas.beblar/RsdohnEoLuI/AAAAAAAAEa8/lLcemtH7Gz0/s144/pic%20001.jpg" /></a><a href="http://picasaweb.google.ca/tomas.beblar/CarsPics/photo#5100160046833610482"><img src="http://lh6.google.ca/tomas.beblar/RsdoinEoLvI/AAAAAAAAEbE/m3aPH1DgLss/s144/pic%20002.jpg" /></a><a href="http://picasaweb.google.ca/tomas.beblar/CarsPics/photo#5100160064013479682"><img src="http://lh6.google.ca/tomas.beblar/RsdojnEoLwI/AAAAAAAAEbM/M0XpSJyXETM/s144/pic%20003.jpg" /></a><a href="http://picasaweb.google.ca/tomas.beblar/CarsPics/photo#5100160081193348882"><img src="http://lh6.google.ca/tomas.beblar/RsdoknEoLxI/AAAAAAAAEbU/wRJYlOebMKU/s144/pic%20004.jpg" /></a><a href="http://picasaweb.google.ca/tomas.beblar/CarsPics/photo#5100160111258119970"><img src="http://lh5.google.ca/tomas.beblar/RsdomXEoLyI/AAAAAAAAEbc/k96MOXHTyoo/s144/pic%20005.jpg" /></a><a href="http://picasaweb.google.ca/tomas.beblar/CarsPics/photo#5100160240107138930"><img src="http://lh3.google.ca/tomas.beblar/Rsdot3EoL3I/AAAAAAAAEcE/F4EWMQFY2fk/s144/pic%20011.jpg" /></a>
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From the pictures it looks like you've already done some hard braking and are gonna warp those too.. Drilled rotors FTL... Look for stress cracks soon
 
Yea I am worried about that... I have been seriously thinking I should have gone with just slotted or plain rotors.

I went with TPM, the vendor I bought them from is a big well known DSM vendor and told me they have never heard of them cracking........ But they better not for what I paid. Cause they sure were NOT cheap.
 
I haven't done any hard braking yet, they just look like that because the zinc coating is slowly coming off the rotors. I'll take more pictures once all the zinc coating is off. But if they crack, I'll let you all know. So far so good though. Tom.
 
Hey I was just wondering if someone could confirm that I installed the rotors on the correct sides. I read that the outer part of the slot is supposed to contact the pads first. However, I have seen pictures of people's setups where this is backwards. Did I install it the right way or the wrong way? Thanks, Tom.
 
I'm stating that if Porsche drilled rotors (Brembo) don't crack and the rotors that are cheap do crack then there is a difference in quality. There is a difference in the metals being used, there is a difference in the manufacturing process.
Let's just not write drilled rotors off, they do work, they are proven... Well the quality ones, not the cheap ones. Otherwise Porsche wouldn't be putting them on their cars!
 
Flash said:
Let's just not write drilled rotors off, they do work, they are proven
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Regardless, there's no need for drilled/cross-drilled/slotted rotors for basically any daily driver. No need whatsoever.
 
Well, theres no need for a turbocharger either, but they are fun!

The drilled rotors that I have seen with very small stress cracks around the holes were drilled and not chamfered (sp?). All of the new ones that I have seen are chamfered.
 
Typically, rotors do show signs of wear after period of hard use, but usually is not something that happens suddenly. It is a gradual (10k applies to this situation) phenomenon which can be monitored by the user.

The rear rotors on our cars are super thin, and I wouldn't doubt they would crack. But still I would say it was a gradual process. Brembo is a reputable brand, and I have used their rotors on my car before. Because of the fact the OEM rear rotors on our cars are so thin, I wouldn't trust the cross-drilled rotors. Cross drilled rotors may work, but its not a chance I am willing to take despite what I have said about them. It really is up to the end user whether they are willing to take the risk or not.
 
DSMunknown said:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141849
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I remember seeing the images of that guys car when it happened a few years back! scary ish! Which makes me want to just do Evo brakes on my car.

That was one of the turning points in my life, seeing those images. I was just some stupid kid back then throwing cash into a car, not doing the work myself and seeing how fast I can get it. Not thinkin I could ever lose it! It was AWD, how could I lose control and DIE!? LOL, Now, I don't remember whens the last time I actually took a car to the limits. I wanna live longer then 25!
 
DSMunknown said:
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141849

Tom, what's the diameter of the rotors? They look effin' small (even with those big-ass rims).
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Hey, I've read that thread already but thanks for the heads up anyways.

The rotor + pad combo I got can be found here:

http://store.r1concepts.com/Items/combo%20pkg%20071?

The rotors I got are the same diameter as stock ones however they were thicker with more "meat" to them.

With regards to everyone talking about them cracking. I'll let you all know if that happens, but it hasn't happened yet.

My question was whether or not I installed them the right way (with regards to the slots going in the proper direction)? Can anyone answer my question? :confused:

Thanks, Tom.

PS: If they crack or warp I'll let you all know immediately. If they don't crack, then we can add this rotor + pad combo to the available options for people wanting to do a minor brake upgrade on a budget. I also got the SS Brake lines but those were a bit pricey.
 
Flash said:
Typically, rotors do show signs of wear after period of hard use, but usually is not something that happens suddenly. It is a gradual (10k applies to this situation) phenomenon which can be monitored by the user.

The rear rotors on our cars are super thin, and I wouldn't doubt they would crack. But still I would say it was a gradual process. Brembo is a reputable brand, and I have used their rotors on my car before. Because of the fact the OEM rear rotors on our cars are so thin, I wouldn't trust the cross-drilled rotors. Cross drilled rotors may work, but its not a chance I am willing to take despite what I have said about them. It really is up to the end user whether they are willing to take the risk or not.
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Exactly. If the rear rotors did not come with my old talon, I would not have chosen to spend the money to purchase them. Again, while adding the "cool" effect, a daily driven rear brake system has no need for cross drilled rotors and truthfully felt no different than the autozone cheap-o's I put on after I spotted the problem. Reason probably being that the rears do a quarter of the job the fronts do.
 
blcknspo0ln said:
Reason probably being that the rears do a quarter of the job the fronts do.
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You're giving them too much credit. I think it's something like a tenth.
 
DSMunknown said:
You're giving them too much credit. I think it's something like a tenth.
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^ that is unless your car is dropped, when lower center of gravity causes your car to "lean forward"(transfer weight to the front wheels) less while braking. I would assume most of our cars are dropped and have some extent of weight loss as well, which also puts less on the nose of the car while braking. I wish I only had to change my rear brakes one tenth as often as the fronts, that would be dreamy...
I do agree that the fronts are used more but when you really start doing your homework on brakes you realize that once dropped, our cars would actually need more rear brake action for 'optimal' braking.
Sorry if it sounds like I am being an ass, just discussed this in my physics class when I was taking on a brake project for a friend's dsm last semester. He ended up using better pads on the rear than the front to better distribute the brake force, and his car stops like a MF now... A Brake (adjuster)(cant remember what it is called) can be used with similar results.
I thought it sounded bogus too, but read it over and It makes sense.
-Jason
 
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