Ecmlink and auto x?

[pos4g63]

Quick scca solo question are you allowed to run ecmlink in anyclass or does it bump you out of stock and into the next class?

 

[4g63monstr]

pretty sure it bumps you out of stock unless they can't tell and you don't say anything...

 

[knochgoon24]

Section 13.9.D - Stock Class - Electrical System

No changes are permitted to electronic engine management systems
or their programming.

 

[jtmcinder]

pretty sure it bumps you out of stock unless they can't tell and you don't say anything...

And yet you wonder why people with turbos have such a bad reputation within the SCCA....

 

[gofer]

Perception! Just paint the top of the microchip black so it looks OE, just in case they ask you to pull the ECU and open it up.

 

[knochgoon24]

Evo MAF, Blitz DSEBC, and ECMLink are all not allowed in stock. Not sure about the other stuff. Maybe someone else can take a look and see.

Some of the things I'm not sure about are the AWD brakes and the 2g pistons.

 

[pos4g63]

Ok thanks for the reply's. I need to thoroughly read through the rules.

 

[wanksta]

Just run it. If you get protested running as a novice, you should find a different group to run with. You'll get the rules figured out before you start outrunning the regulars.

 

[dsmpat95]

Just run it. If you get protested running as a novice, you should find a different group to run with. You'll get the rules figured out before you start outrunning the regulars.

Wrong answer.

 

[wanksta]

Im not encouraging cheating, Im sayin there is a novice class for a reason. Alot of people get turned off to auto-x cause so many of the "experts" run them off by clubbin em with the rulebook. I dont auto-x anymore, I do HPDE, time-trials, and enduros. I would have learned alot more alot faster if there had been more people eager to welcome the new guys. But that was 15 years ago...

 

[LandSpeed-DSM]

The rules are there for a reason, its not just to weed out new guys.

It's to provide as safe and level of a playing field as is practical.

 

[Vehicle36]

You can run an ST class if you'd like, so long as the boost pressure remains stock. You can optimize timing and make an ST legal map, but the stock boost must remain - otherwise it's off to street mod or a prepared class.

Just be honest about what you're running and your club should find you the correct place to compete in based on your experience.

 

[9!'clipseDOHC]

ESP (street prepared) is a good class if you have V3 or other bolt on mods (still need stock internals and stock turbo). I just started autox last year and I was in ESP based the mods I had prior to getting started. Don't worry about what class they put you in, even it if ends up being SM. You won't be competitive as a beginner, so the class really doesn't matter. Go, have fun, learn, regardless of the class.

 

[wanksta]

ESP (street prepared) is a good class if you have V3 or other bolt on mods (still need stock internals and stock turbo). I just started autox last year and I was in ESP based the mods I had prior to getting started. Don't worry about what class they put you in, even it if ends up being SM. You won't be competitive as a beginner, so the class really doesn't matter. Go, have fun, learn, regardless of the class.

This is exactly what I was getting at! Dont worry about the classes or allowed mods, just go learn to drive your car safer and faster. If somebody has a problem with it (and it's evident that somebody will based the replies in this thread), tell em "put me in whatever class you want, I'm just here to learn".

 

[Hal]

tell em "put me in whatever class you want, I'm just here to learn".

... then the choads in that class will find something to bi*** about.

 

[knochgoon24]

The guys in my region are really into helping the new guys. jtmcinder knows; he used to run here.

In all seriousness, when you show up, talk to the guys at the registration table. If they don't know where you should be, they'll point you to the guy who does. In my region, it's the guy doing the tech inspections. He'll take a closer look at the car and ask some questions. Within 60 seconds, he can usually place the new guys.

Have you looked to see if any of your other mods would bump you into another class?

 

[jtmcinder]

While I agree that CPR-SCCA is full of helpful guys, one of my complaints about them was that tech was often "helping" to class cars. I'm sorry to hear that they're still doing this. It is not only inappropriate; it's against the rules. You can have a classing helper nearby, but tech needs to be focused on safety and that's all. For example, when tech becomes more interested in classing and such, they do things like miss the nitrous tank in the right rear corner of the black F-body, even when there's a tank-pressure gauge right there on the fricken A-pillar and a purge-valve switch on the dash. Purely hypothetical, of course, and, in said hypothetical world, I still whipped his butt.

 

[knochgoon24]

Yeah. But the guys at the registration table are too busy being on the look out for a certain Bellefonte local who whoops their butts in every car he brings. Kip's still causing lots of drama. And sadly, the people running the registration table wouldn't have a clue how to class a non-stock car.